1 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:13,709 [Music] 2 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:17,510 this hope radio for the masses headliner 3 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:20,900 between July 8 1947 these are the 4 00:00:24,850 --> 00:00:22,310 airport has announced that a flying 5 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:24,860 there - found and is now in the 6 00:00:30,690 --> 00:00:27,170 possession of the armour the game is 7 00:00:33,549 --> 00:00:30,700 rigged changed the game changer I 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:33,559 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:00:40,509 --> 00:00:37,850 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:40,519 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:48,970 this is fade to black with your host 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:51,950 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 13 00:00:57,180 --> 00:00:55,130 network and K GRA the global radio 14 00:01:00,610 --> 00:00:57,190 alliance 15 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:00,620 [Music] 16 00:01:12,140 --> 00:01:09,990 you're listening to fade to black with 17 00:01:12,870 --> 00:01:12,150 jimmy touch only game change in net 18 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:12,880 worth 19 00:01:20,649 --> 00:01:16,740 [Music] 20 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:20,659 all right fade to black this spoke radio 21 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:31,710 for Masse's today's Thursday March 22nd 22 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:35,850 2018 81 days into the new year just 284 23 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:38,909 days left as always we are live from a 24 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:41,610 bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:43,770 California and I would like to welcome 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:45,450 everybody listening all around the world 27 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:47,970 all across the United States hither and 28 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:49,830 thither to and fro back and forth up and 29 00:01:52,910 --> 00:01:51,990 down east and west north and south far 30 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:52,920 and near 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:01:57,060 this is fade to black for kjc are the 32 00:02:01,430 --> 00:01:59,850 game changer Network and K G RA the 33 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:01,440 planet Armijo should be Church what is 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:04,350 cracking everybody how you doing all 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:07,170 right tonight we had to shift things 36 00:02:16,030 --> 00:02:11,370 around the so tonight's fatal night was 37 00:02:22,340 --> 00:02:16,040 last night you know this now man 38 00:02:24,490 --> 00:02:22,350 tonight's Yvonne Smith is here and I 39 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:24,500 can't believe this because we know Lynn 40 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:28,500 Nolan there you go Lynn Lewis just 41 00:02:38,330 --> 00:02:34,470 creeped into the show right Erica we 42 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:38,340 know he bonds so well and it's been many 43 00:02:42,670 --> 00:02:39,840 years since he's been on the show with 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:42,680 us so she's on with us tonight and 45 00:02:48,259 --> 00:02:45,090 opening up the show tonight for Yvonne 46 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:48,269 will be Jon Rappoport and his no more 47 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:50,910 fake newsroom live so John's gonna be 48 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:52,500 with us at the bottom of the hour John 49 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:55,860 of course you know very busy journalist 50 00:03:02,840 --> 00:02:57,510 and every Wednesday night he's on 51 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:02,850 another radio program yeah yeah and so 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:05,790 there and then he comes over on Thursday 53 00:03:08,870 --> 00:03:07,410 nights and he's here with us so John 54 00:03:11,330 --> 00:03:08,880 will be with us that's why he couldn't 55 00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:11,340 do a fader night last night I knew that 56 00:03:16,610 --> 00:03:13,950 but so John will be with us at the 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:16,620 bottom of the hour okay follow us on 58 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:19,530 twitter at JT radio simple enough edge a 59 00:03:25,729 --> 00:03:22,350 church radio hashtag F to B is the 60 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:25,739 sandbox hashtag F to B Q is fade to 61 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:27,329 black questions 62 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:30,900 and tonight's 63 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:36,540 tonight in the sandbox Lynn Lewis will 64 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:40,080 not be with us in the sandbox Lynn Lewis 65 00:03:47,150 --> 00:03:42,540 one of the original fader knots here at 66 00:03:51,289 --> 00:03:47,160 the show she was the mother of this 67 00:03:54,229 --> 00:03:51,299 great fader not family that we have here 68 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:54,239 Lynn Lewis passed away this past Sunday 69 00:04:02,149 --> 00:03:58,530 and we just found out about it from her 70 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:02,159 sister a few hours ago at 7 o'clock here 71 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:05,610 so about 5 o'clock our time from her 72 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:07,440 sister in Australia that Lynn passed 73 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:12,799 away suddenly on Sunday and Mark Tarana 74 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:15,690 you know fate or not that holds down 75 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:18,239 Australia along with Lynn was reaching 76 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:22,800 out to her and Lynn's sister you know 77 00:04:28,969 --> 00:04:24,030 where have you been that kind of thing 78 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:28,979 and Lin's sister popped in and and gave 79 00:04:35,379 --> 00:04:33,870 us the news so there you go 80 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:35,389 [Music] 81 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:40,020 really I don't know Ari I have no idea 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:41,550 Rita says we're not playing on the 83 00:04:51,379 --> 00:04:45,330 website can somebody confirm that I've 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:51,389 got action here hmm I don't know if 85 00:04:56,210 --> 00:04:52,770 we're not playing on the website love 86 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:56,220 you know I don't want to I don't want to 87 00:05:03,170 --> 00:04:58,620 get sidetracked so there you go anyway 88 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:03,180 Lynn Lewis was with us from the very 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:06,479 very very beginning and and supported 90 00:05:14,930 --> 00:05:10,770 this show I don't I don't have any other 91 00:05:17,450 --> 00:05:14,940 words than that her checking in with us 92 00:05:21,589 --> 00:05:17,460 from Australia with the new hair color 93 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:21,599 and and other things was just a bright 94 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:24,960 spot you know she was not only not only 95 00:05:30,980 --> 00:05:27,960 a proud fade or not but the UFO 96 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:30,990 community and conspiracy and questioning 97 00:05:37,610 --> 00:05:36,240 everything was her life and there was 98 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:37,620 something else too 99 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:39,570 now this show is dedicated to Lynn 100 00:05:43,219 --> 00:05:41,370 tonight there's just no question about 101 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:43,229 that and we're gonna dedicate this to 102 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:43,810 Lynn but 103 00:05:54,530 --> 00:05:46,270 one of the things that we found out very 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:54,540 early on was Lynn had to go in for 105 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:58,330 dialysis quite often in the hospital and 106 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:01,360 so what she would do for everybody at 107 00:06:07,770 --> 00:06:03,550 the hospital because of the timing of 108 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:07,780 the show in Australia's time zone she 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:11,800 would go in with her tablet and play 110 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:16,210 fade to black for everybody in the 111 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:19,390 hospital and she got everybody turned on 112 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:22,000 to fade to black and when she told me 113 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:24,910 she goes aw yeah man everybody the 114 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,600 doctors the nurses and and she was just 115 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:31,120 great she was absolutely amazing and her 116 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,450 knowledge though I was just and I feel 117 00:06:39,330 --> 00:06:36,160 so weird talking about this in the past 118 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:39,340 tense but one thing is for sure I just 119 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:43,290 said this at the beginning of the show 120 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:47,380 was I slipped up and said Lynn instead 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:48,940 of Yvonne and I said wouldn't it be 122 00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:52,450 funny if Linda's poked her head into the 123 00:06:58,380 --> 00:06:55,360 show tonight wouldn't that be funny well 124 00:07:00,510 --> 00:06:58,390 she did and maybe she'll knock something 125 00:07:02,460 --> 00:07:00,520 over in here and if anybody would be 126 00:07:06,029 --> 00:07:02,470 pulling that off it would be Lynn Louis 127 00:07:09,390 --> 00:07:06,039 so Lynn rest in peace rest in peace 128 00:07:12,540 --> 00:07:09,400 gobekli tepe you were a seeker of the 129 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:12,550 truth and you found out the ultimate 130 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:15,550 question and what is going on on the 131 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:18,850 other side Lynn Lewis passed away this 132 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:23,350 past Sunday all right Wow Wow 133 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:25,690 Rita and I are just completely bummed 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:28,930 but let's the show must go on you know 135 00:07:35,719 --> 00:07:33,250 and and she was the one thing that would 136 00:07:39,630 --> 00:07:35,729 say it's just so often you know that 137 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:39,640 this show means so much and the show 138 00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:42,190 must continue and she supported it in 139 00:07:48,029 --> 00:07:46,419 every way that she could so there you go 140 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:48,039 this show is dedicated to Lynn Louis 141 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:56,520 the platform on stellar is launching and 142 00:07:59,590 --> 00:07:57,110 I've been talked 143 00:08:05,710 --> 00:07:59,600 about this now for the past nine days 144 00:08:08,830 --> 00:08:05,720 and if you go to on stellar dot-com you 145 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United States you want 215 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:22,569 to go hang out with Ashley and the folks 216 00:11:27,059 --> 00:11:24,850 over at ESET e click on the banner at - 217 00:11:28,919 --> 00:11:27,069 be territorial comm and you'll have 218 00:11:32,789 --> 00:11:28,929 their schedule and details right there 219 00:11:34,319 --> 00:11:32,799 our next event it's coming up I can't 220 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:34,329 believe it we're sitting here on March 221 00:11:41,489 --> 00:11:37,929 22nd so we got April May that's it and 222 00:11:44,129 --> 00:11:41,499 then it's contact in the desert in 223 00:11:46,829 --> 00:11:44,139 Indian Wells Palm Springs Southern 224 00:11:47,309 --> 00:11:46,839 California at the Renaissance Resort & 225 00:11:50,509 --> 00:11:47,319 Spa 226 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:50,519 the biggest UFO conference in the world 227 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:54,490 right there in Palm Springs and an 228 00:11:59,449 --> 00:11:56,769 amazing line-up of speakers we've got a 229 00:12:02,220 --> 00:11:59,459 lot of cool things and events going on 230 00:12:03,780 --> 00:12:02,230 our booth is gonna be great on stellar 231 00:12:05,579 --> 00:12:03,790 is gonna have a booth we're all gonna be 232 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:05,589 together with a stillness of the storm 233 00:12:10,109 --> 00:12:07,720 and modern masters and fade to black and 234 00:12:13,289 --> 00:12:10,119 announce teller we got this big chunk of 235 00:12:14,579 --> 00:12:13,299 real estate right there and so you're 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:14,589 gonna want to come and hang out with us 237 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:16,689 all weekend we'll be broadcasting fade 238 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:20,049 to black live on Friday night in front 239 00:12:22,569 --> 00:12:20,720 of a studio 240 00:12:26,110 --> 00:12:22,579 audience well we say that every year 241 00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:26,120 it's in front of a big group of phaidor 242 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,350 knots so come and hang out with us the 243 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:32,000 contact in the desert okay and then 244 00:12:37,329 --> 00:12:34,790 right after that which is August 9th 245 00:12:40,210 --> 00:12:37,339 through the 12th is our conference up at 246 00:12:43,090 --> 00:12:40,220 ESET II II city ranch and it's called 247 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:43,100 the Seoul tech gathering go to Seoul 248 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:45,680 tech gathering calm and we're only 249 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:47,870 selling 300 tickets for this 300 fate or 250 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:49,910 knots getting together up in Washington 251 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:52,220 and you can click on the banners over AG 252 00:12:56,319 --> 00:12:53,839 meters radio calm don't forget to 253 00:12:58,749 --> 00:12:56,329 subscribe to our podcast $2.00 a month 254 00:13:02,170 --> 00:12:58,759 over 800 archive shows and you can also 255 00:13:04,030 --> 00:13:02,180 become a fader not an official fader not 256 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:04,040 over in our membership section on the 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:05,689 site where we've got the bunker cam 258 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:08,689 which I'm waving at now hello everybody 259 00:13:13,629 --> 00:13:10,910 in the bunker cam commercial free 260 00:13:15,189 --> 00:13:13,639 downloadable archives and autographed 261 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:15,199 hats and t-shirts and all that stuff and 262 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:16,610 you can do that over in our membership 263 00:13:23,009 --> 00:13:19,430 section at Jimmy Church radio calm all 264 00:13:28,530 --> 00:13:23,019 right let's get this show crackin today 265 00:13:34,379 --> 00:13:28,540 happy birthday to William Shatner 266 00:13:35,790 --> 00:13:34,389 Captain James Tiberius Kirk 87 years old 267 00:13:41,259 --> 00:13:35,800 unbelievable 268 00:13:45,999 --> 00:13:41,269 87 William Shatner also today pawn star 269 00:13:50,699 --> 00:13:46,009 Rick Harrison is 53 and when I saw this 270 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:50,709 now before fade to black 271 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:53,569 okay before fade to black back when I 272 00:14:01,809 --> 00:13:59,360 had a life before all of that mess I 273 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:01,819 went through a couple of years of 274 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:04,610 addiction to Pawn Stars I admitted I 275 00:14:11,490 --> 00:14:07,610 admitted right now Chumlee I admit it 276 00:14:15,549 --> 00:14:11,500 man I watched all the Pawn Stars 277 00:14:17,710 --> 00:14:15,559 marathons and never been there though we 278 00:14:20,619 --> 00:14:17,720 just got back from Vegas too and we 279 00:14:22,809 --> 00:14:20,629 didn't go over there but man I guys 280 00:14:25,569 --> 00:14:22,819 built an empire has me I just off of a 281 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:25,579 pawn shop Rick Harrison today is 53 282 00:14:35,370 --> 00:14:32,809 Matthew Modine today is 59 now I like 283 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:38,170 like Matthew Modine almost as much as I 284 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:43,630 like my River Moon coffee Matthew Modine 285 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:49,360 now he was really good in weeds he was 286 00:14:58,020 --> 00:14:54,890 really good in stranger things right but 287 00:15:01,300 --> 00:14:58,030 nothing and I mean nothing is better 288 00:15:05,310 --> 00:15:01,310 than his role private Joker in Full 289 00:15:07,170 --> 00:15:05,320 Metal Jacket Matthew Modine will always 290 00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:07,180 [Laughter] 291 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:11,390 will always make the birthday list 292 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:13,760 because of Full Metal Jacket all right 293 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:18,560 on this day in history OTD 1984 I want 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:21,130 to talk about this for a minute 295 00:15:28,390 --> 00:15:25,490 1984 seven teachers at the McMartin 296 00:15:31,750 --> 00:15:28,400 preschool in Manhattan Beach California 297 00:15:34,390 --> 00:15:31,760 are indicted by the Los Angeles County 298 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:34,400 grand jury after hearing testimony from 299 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:38,450 18 children including among the charged 300 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:42,050 are Peggy macmaine McMartin Buckey the 301 00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:44,240 head of the school and her son ray 302 00:15:53,770 --> 00:15:50,270 Buckey seven years millions and millions 303 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:53,780 of dollars later the case against the 304 00:15:58,690 --> 00:15:56,450 teachers came to a close with no 305 00:16:06,300 --> 00:15:58,700 evidence of wrongdoing and no 306 00:16:10,540 --> 00:16:06,310 convictions now this was 34 years ago a 307 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:10,550 lot of you out there weren't born when 308 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:12,860 this went down so you don't know about 309 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:16,790 the McMartin preschool case here in 310 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:20,090 California I had just arrived from 311 00:16:26,170 --> 00:16:23,630 Indianapolis and when these indictments 312 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:26,180 went down and it took over everything 313 00:16:32,290 --> 00:16:28,670 and the trial was broadcast on 314 00:16:36,010 --> 00:16:32,300 television and and it took over Los 315 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:36,020 Angeles and it was the craziest stuff 316 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:40,250 you ever heard and the evidence in this 317 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:44,090 case and this is from three-year-old 318 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:46,610 Dana preschool all right three or four 319 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:46,910 year 320 00:16:56,620 --> 00:16:52,010 kids got crazier and crazier and crazier 321 00:16:58,180 --> 00:16:56,630 and as it turned out and in the end of 322 00:17:00,850 --> 00:16:58,190 course all charges were dropped 323 00:17:04,780 --> 00:17:00,860 everybody was found innocent but but in 324 00:17:07,450 --> 00:17:04,790 the end it seemed that the prosecutors 325 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:07,460 and these specialists in the case that 326 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:09,290 were interviewing these children with 327 00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:12,890 dolls right and having them describe 328 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:17,540 these the the children through probably 329 00:17:24,370 --> 00:17:22,310 crazy powers of suggestion let their 330 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:24,380 fantasies run wild 331 00:17:31,630 --> 00:17:28,010 and it got crazy 332 00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:31,640 and without getting into specifics but 333 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:35,780 it was just like wow I I just remember 334 00:17:41,860 --> 00:17:38,630 crazy stuff if I just made up stuff 335 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:41,870 right now and set it out loud and just 336 00:17:47,050 --> 00:17:44,720 made it up it was crazier than that it 337 00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:47,060 was like dead rabbits and drinking blood 338 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:50,750 and skinning animals and satanic rituals 339 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:54,980 and just just crazy talk about what went 340 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:57,260 down and the the Martin preschool it 341 00:18:01,690 --> 00:17:59,210 turned out none of it happened it was 342 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:01,700 all just you know innocent little kids 343 00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:04,250 letting their imaginations run because 344 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:09,080 they are being controlled by these 345 00:18:17,890 --> 00:18:12,890 adults in what to say and it was crazy 346 00:18:20,050 --> 00:18:17,900 and Marc just says in in the home also 347 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:20,060 Manhattan Redondo Beach communities 348 00:18:24,940 --> 00:18:22,760 everyone had a I believe the children 349 00:18:27,580 --> 00:18:24,950 bumper sticker on their car I totally 350 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:27,590 remember that I totally remember that 351 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:32,210 Marc and it was it the the fever pitch 352 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:37,400 and and Peggy Peggy McMartin and her son 353 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:41,390 Ray were looking like and the more that 354 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:42,620 you looked at them because you were 355 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:46,490 hearing all of this crazy testimony they 356 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:51,070 you've just hated them they looked like 357 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:54,080 you know and it was just it was the 358 00:19:00,110 --> 00:18:58,130 craziest fever-pitch thing and at the 359 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:00,120 same time that was going 360 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:03,150 we had the Night Stalker right we had 361 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:07,230 that going down here in in LA with the 362 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:09,630 serial killings that were going on so it 363 00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:12,620 was just like this this crazy summer and 364 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:15,150 after everything and I'm remember now 365 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,570 this went on for seven years and they 366 00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:20,880 just kept trying and trying trying as it 367 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:22,560 just turned out there was nothing there 368 00:19:33,370 --> 00:19:27,690 was never any evidence of anything so I 369 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:33,380 want to take that to today as an example 370 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:36,150 what went down with the McMartin 371 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:39,600 preschool case is that all of us out 372 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:43,770 there all of us have great compassion 373 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:47,010 and have emotional ties two innocent 374 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:48,690 children that are defenseless right and 375 00:19:53,570 --> 00:19:51,660 so one little hint of this the anger 376 00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:53,580 it's just right there it's immediate you 377 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:55,920 know and it's just like this this gang 378 00:20:02,960 --> 00:19:59,840 mentality you just want to just you know 379 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:02,970 riots in the streets it's just it's like 380 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:09,330 that and and today we we still have that 381 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:14,790 and it's really easy to provoke emotions 382 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:19,770 in all of us and it's so hard to pull 383 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:22,890 back and go wait a minute what's what's 384 00:20:27,470 --> 00:20:24,630 really going on here let's try to figure 385 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:27,480 this out let's let's try to get rational 386 00:20:35,690 --> 00:20:32,670 again and we just don't do it you know 387 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:35,700 and with the Salem witch trials or you 388 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:39,030 can just go to any crazy event in 389 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:40,890 history where things like this went on 390 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:43,920 and it and and we do it we do it time 391 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:45,930 after time after time and it seems like 392 00:20:51,290 --> 00:20:48,870 we never learn our lesson and every time 393 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:51,300 that the McMartin preschool case comes 394 00:20:57,980 --> 00:20:53,850 up and I go back and I think when 395 00:21:01,010 --> 00:20:57,990 because I want to say suggest and 396 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:01,020 believe that I'm smarter than that how 397 00:21:04,790 --> 00:21:03,210 what you know I know I can think through 398 00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:04,800 it I can get through that I can figure 399 00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:07,020 things out on my own when it came to the 400 00:21:13,659 --> 00:21:10,820 McMartin preschool case I was all in 401 00:21:15,549 --> 00:21:13,669 just like mark just supposed to hear the 402 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:15,559 the bumper stickers all over the place I 403 00:21:21,609 --> 00:21:19,039 believe the children and la I'm talking 404 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:21,619 about millions of people the McMartins 405 00:21:28,959 --> 00:21:24,769 they couldn't do anything their faces 406 00:21:34,049 --> 00:21:28,969 were pastored everywhere satanic cult at 407 00:21:35,229 --> 00:21:34,059 a preschool 18 kids say and it was 408 00:21:38,259 --> 00:21:35,239 unbelievable 409 00:21:40,829 --> 00:21:38,269 yeah the satanic panic that's exactly 410 00:21:45,699 --> 00:21:40,839 what it was called it was it was it was 411 00:21:48,190 --> 00:21:45,709 unbelievable you know and I bought into 412 00:21:50,739 --> 00:21:48,200 it just like everybody else 413 00:21:54,249 --> 00:21:50,749 and when every friend of yours every 414 00:21:56,199 --> 00:21:54,259 boss every co-worker every family 415 00:21:58,180 --> 00:21:56,209 everybody that you know was talking 416 00:21:59,469 --> 00:21:58,190 about this in the negative sense and 417 00:22:00,759 --> 00:21:59,479 you're listening to it and you're 418 00:22:02,949 --> 00:22:00,769 watching it on TV and you're watching 419 00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:02,959 the trial and this the evidence of now 420 00:22:12,489 --> 00:22:08,200 and you're you're convinced it was 421 00:22:14,859 --> 00:22:12,499 unbelievable I each year it seems like I 422 00:22:17,649 --> 00:22:14,869 talked about the McMartin case it's a 423 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:17,659 it's a real lesson in psychology you 424 00:22:23,649 --> 00:22:21,919 know and no that was put out there by 425 00:22:25,659 --> 00:22:23,659 the religious broadcasting networks all 426 00:22:29,069 --> 00:22:25,669 over the country and probably in the 427 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:29,079 institutions themselves 700 club anyone 428 00:22:35,139 --> 00:22:32,329 David is from Los Angeles right that 429 00:22:39,009 --> 00:22:35,149 just posted that and he knows man he 430 00:22:42,849 --> 00:22:39,019 went through this too and it was it was 431 00:22:45,959 --> 00:22:42,859 an unbelievable time so anyway I haven't 432 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:45,969 gone back I should do a little research 433 00:22:51,539 --> 00:22:48,559 to find out Ray Buckey 434 00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:51,549 I think Peggy McMartin I think she died 435 00:22:56,889 --> 00:22:54,799 I might be wrong because something says 436 00:22:59,289 --> 00:22:56,899 to me that she died a few years ago ray 437 00:23:03,940 --> 00:22:59,299 Buckey her son certainly must be alive I 438 00:23:05,049 --> 00:23:03,950 I doubt he would live in Los Angeles but 439 00:23:08,199 --> 00:23:05,059 Wow 440 00:23:11,409 --> 00:23:08,209 you know it was it was it was like that 441 00:23:15,099 --> 00:23:11,419 so even I you know and it was a lesson 442 00:23:16,959 --> 00:23:15,109 that I learned so when I hear we had a 443 00:23:18,669 --> 00:23:16,969 caller last night that wanted to call in 444 00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:18,679 and talk about you know that you know 445 00:23:23,859 --> 00:23:22,159 these different crisis actors and these 446 00:23:25,389 --> 00:23:23,869 crazy things around the country and the 447 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:25,399 conspiracies behind those in the false 448 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:26,470 flags 449 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:29,919 I'm telling you when something goes down 450 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,710 and the lesson that I learned like with 451 00:23:36,690 --> 00:23:35,679 the McMartin case you just can't pass 452 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:36,700 judgment 453 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:40,090 you can't hey hey a lot of people are 454 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:41,830 guilty and they're found guilty and and 455 00:23:50,510 --> 00:23:46,360 I'm not saying that I'm saying and the 456 00:23:54,419 --> 00:23:50,520 McMartin case I bought it it was crazy 457 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:54,429 alright so that's it whenever you get 458 00:24:00,570 --> 00:23:58,210 anything today and it's crazy and it's 459 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:00,580 sensational you know let it play out 460 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:02,710 there's a reason why we have a court 461 00:24:07,649 --> 00:24:04,870 system right because when I quit the 462 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:07,659 McMartin case they were guilty they were 463 00:24:12,539 --> 00:24:10,510 guilty nobody wanted to hear about that 464 00:24:18,029 --> 00:24:12,549 they were done the trial was a waste of 465 00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:18,039 time yeah think about it fader fact one 466 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:20,950 of the late Stephen Hawkings widely 467 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:25,530 accepted theories is that black holes 468 00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:31,260 aren't black remember black holes right 469 00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:37,559 actually they have no color yep 470 00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:41,350 everything gets sucked in including 471 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:46,390 color including the color black and that 472 00:24:54,419 --> 00:24:51,130 is a fader fact all right tonight Yvonne 473 00:24:56,220 --> 00:24:54,429 Smith is here last night she was 474 00:24:59,250 --> 00:24:56,230 supposed to be here we moved a fader 475 00:25:00,690 --> 00:24:59,260 night to last night and it was a great 476 00:25:02,580 --> 00:25:00,700 show by the way and thank you to 477 00:25:05,010 --> 00:25:02,590 everybody they called in that's uh one 478 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:05,020 of my favorite things to do all week if 479 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:07,000 she was with Grant Cameron last night 480 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:08,770 grant Cameron came in from Canada and 481 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,120 for the last two nights was speaking 482 00:25:15,870 --> 00:25:12,159 here in Southern California so we moved 483 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:15,880 Yvonne from last night to tonight but it 484 00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:17,710 was Fator night we couldn't move Jon 485 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:19,990 Rappoport over to last night for fate or 486 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:22,090 night because he's got a commitment that 487 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:25,330 he does every Wednesday night so Jan Jon 488 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:28,450 Rappoport is with this tonight so would 489 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:31,840 I go back after this break we'll have 490 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,020 Jon Rappoport here oh yes and also I 491 00:25:40,169 --> 00:25:37,840 made a mistake and I couldn't believe 492 00:25:41,850 --> 00:25:40,179 this and you guys want to laugh you 493 00:25:45,239 --> 00:25:41,860 really want a good laugh and slin 494 00:25:47,369 --> 00:25:45,249 Louis's fault I had said this week that 495 00:25:52,109 --> 00:25:47,379 I was on coast to coast this Friday and 496 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:52,119 Saturday so today I'm literally and and 497 00:25:58,379 --> 00:25:55,210 yesterday and I'm not joking I was 498 00:25:59,970 --> 00:25:58,389 booking coast and working and prepping 499 00:26:01,950 --> 00:25:59,980 the show and getting ready for Costa 500 00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:01,960 Costa this weekend and then I checked 501 00:26:08,369 --> 00:26:05,350 and it turned out then I'm on coasts 502 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:08,379 next week next Friday and Saturday and 503 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:10,330 on my Coast the weekend after that too 504 00:26:16,049 --> 00:26:12,460 as well and that's all officially 505 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:16,059 checked so I misspoke yesterday in the 506 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:18,119 night before the night before the Hat 507 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:21,220 I've never checked my calendar can you 508 00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:24,129 believe it I just had it in my head so 509 00:26:28,409 --> 00:26:26,169 luckily I called the guests it I was 510 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:28,419 like oh by the way it's uh it's next 511 00:26:33,570 --> 00:26:31,450 Friday oh cool okay all right and oh by 512 00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:33,580 the way it's next out oh okay okay cool 513 00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:36,100 cool I didn't tell him that uh I screwed 514 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:38,980 up but that's really really funny so 515 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:41,049 everybody I'm not on coast tomorrow 516 00:26:45,539 --> 00:26:43,690 night I'm not on coast this Saturday I'm 517 00:26:48,299 --> 00:26:45,549 on Coast next weekend and the weekend 518 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:48,309 after that all right are we good are we 519 00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:52,240 good again tonight's show is dedicated 520 00:27:00,180 --> 00:26:56,759 to lynn lewis and when she would call in 521 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:00,190 from australia i've got to say this and 522 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:04,809 i really mean it she was so funny so 523 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:09,730 witty so cool and so smart and made sure 524 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:13,450 that all of you were kept in line that 525 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,080 was her gig and and this fader not 526 00:27:23,789 --> 00:27:19,919 family she was the mom from the word go 527 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:23,799 she kept you guys in line and she was 528 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:25,929 smart and asked all the right questions 529 00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:30,070 and she left this earth this past sunday 530 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:32,940 so this show is dedicated to lynn and 531 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:37,360 rita and I are completely tore up and 532 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:41,590 bummed but the truth is this whatever is 533 00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:44,830 going on on the other side somebody like 534 00:27:49,529 --> 00:27:47,169 Lynn is over there causing trouble 535 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:49,539 she has found out and now she's asking 536 00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:50,609 questions 537 00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:53,400 rest in peace Lynn Lewis and 538 00:27:59,030 --> 00:27:55,470 thoughts and prayers are with Lin and 539 00:28:01,150 --> 00:27:59,040 her family and there you go this is fade 540 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,160 to black I am your host Jimmy Church 541 00:28:05,150 --> 00:28:03,600 tonight's show dedicated to Lin Lewis 542 00:28:07,670 --> 00:28:05,160 top of the hour 543 00:28:09,770 --> 00:28:07,680 Yvonne Smith will be here I'm gonna take 544 00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:09,780 a short break and when I come back we'll 545 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:11,400 be joined by the one and only John 546 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:13,260 Rappaport and there's no more fake 547 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:14,250 newsroom 548 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:15,930 live this is fade to black I'm yours 549 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:18,810 Jimmy Church on the game changer Network 550 00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:00,280 [Music] 551 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:03,320 you're listening to Jimmy Church fade to 552 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down and we see the light of 623 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:46,690 day a new day no more robots 624 00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:49,570 no more androids it's the no more fake 625 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:52,840 newsroom with Jon Rappoport take it away 626 00:33:04,640 --> 00:32:56,770 Jon Thank You Jimmy thank you good to be 627 00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:04,650 here as always so I was casting around 628 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:09,400 to see what stories to cover and so on 629 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:12,960 and so forth and I thought you know 630 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:22,080 let's not take a night off but in 1994 631 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,460 12 years into a career as a reporter I 632 00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:32,559 decided on the spur of the moment to do 633 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:36,460 something completely and utterly insane 634 00:33:45,539 --> 00:33:40,710 and that was run for a seat in the US 635 00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:45,549 Congress from the 29th district in Los 636 00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:49,870 Angeles I'm not sure how I came to that 637 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:53,260 decision I know I was on the phone with 638 00:33:59,960 --> 00:33:57,160 a friend and we were talking about the 639 00:34:03,570 --> 00:33:59,970 man that I was going to run against 640 00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:03,580 Henry Waxman who was a 20 year incumbent 641 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:06,910 congressman from that district by that 642 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:12,250 time Democrat and somehow someway the 643 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:15,490 whole conversation turns around and I 644 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:19,290 decided why not 645 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:27,010 why not what is there to lose well if 646 00:34:32,369 --> 00:34:29,110 that time the health freedom movement as 647 00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:32,379 it was called was well underway there 648 00:34:39,419 --> 00:34:36,929 had been FDA rage on the offices of 649 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:39,429 alternative practitioners and they were 650 00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:43,450 getting national publicity at the same 651 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:48,159 time nutritional supplement companies 652 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:52,210 were feeling the heat and they felt that 653 00:35:00,180 --> 00:34:55,110 the FDA was about to try to take some 654 00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,190 draconian actions to limit people's 655 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:03,280 access to the full range of nutritional 656 00:35:11,010 --> 00:35:07,270 supplements and so they wanted a a bill 657 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:11,020 in Congress they wanted the law and a 658 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:13,570 bill was in fact put up for 659 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:16,990 consideration that was eventually passed 660 00:35:23,490 --> 00:35:21,610 called the Hatch Act which as far as I 661 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:23,500 was concerned a number of other people 662 00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:26,650 did not go far enough nearly far enough 663 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:31,300 to curb the power of the FDA when it 664 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:34,510 came to supplements and natural health 665 00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:39,900 in general but okay so there I was 666 00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,920 having made this decision with no idea 667 00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:47,440 in the world as to how I was going to 668 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:52,000 run the campaign I had no professionals 669 00:35:58,620 --> 00:35:53,440 on staff 670 00:36:03,990 --> 00:35:58,630 I had no consultants no advisors very 671 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:04,000 little money you know all the pre-wet re 672 00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:06,790 requisites for winning a political 673 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:10,200 campaign against the 20-year incumbent 674 00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:14,020 but hmm had a meeting with some friends 675 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:17,740 and a core group of about six of us 676 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:21,010 emerged that were going to give this 677 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:25,360 thing a try and the best thing for me 678 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:27,550 that came out of all of this by the way 679 00:36:35,229 --> 00:36:30,799 was meeting my future wife Laura 680 00:36:39,329 --> 00:36:35,239 worked on my campaign and that was by 681 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:39,339 far the best outcome in this whole 682 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:44,209 insane proposition so we raised a bit of 683 00:36:50,739 --> 00:36:49,729 money I kicked in some of my own and we 684 00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:50,749 were off and running 685 00:36:58,509 --> 00:36:54,920 buying posters that we put up all over 686 00:37:02,289 --> 00:36:58,519 town and I was going to run against my 687 00:37:06,099 --> 00:37:02,299 opponent in the Democratic primary 688 00:37:08,739 --> 00:37:06,109 because I decided well if I run as a 689 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,749 Republican or an independent in that 690 00:37:13,209 --> 00:37:10,400 particular district I would have no 691 00:37:19,059 --> 00:37:13,219 chance of winning so I had to challenge 692 00:37:21,429 --> 00:37:19,069 him in the Democratic primary so I just 693 00:37:27,819 --> 00:37:21,439 want to give you a few snapshots and 694 00:37:32,229 --> 00:37:27,829 highlights from this madcap episode 695 00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:32,239 called a political campaign first of all 696 00:37:38,109 --> 00:37:35,529 I was somewhat surprised to discover 697 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:38,119 that virtually none of the big 698 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:40,130 nutritional supplement companies were 699 00:37:45,989 --> 00:37:44,569 willing to donate to my campaign I guess 700 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:45,999 they thought that I was a bit 701 00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:50,569 radioactive because I was carrying on a 702 00:37:59,140 --> 00:37:55,160 full-bore attack against the FDA I was 703 00:38:03,039 --> 00:37:59,150 saying things like you know the 704 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,049 buildings should be fumigated everybody 705 00:38:07,449 --> 00:38:05,119 should be fired 706 00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:07,459 we should start all over again because 707 00:38:15,009 --> 00:38:10,819 this was a terminally corrupt rogue 708 00:38:17,739 --> 00:38:15,019 agency that was partners with the 709 00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:17,749 pharmaceutical industry and was trying 710 00:38:28,329 --> 00:38:22,670 to destroy natural health well that was 711 00:38:32,339 --> 00:38:28,339 way too much for these folks so one of 712 00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:32,349 the most interesting moments was at a 713 00:38:38,589 --> 00:38:35,209 natural health trade show where I met 714 00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:38,599 the CEO of a fairly large supplement 715 00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:42,680 company and he sat down 716 00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:45,140 and proceeded to regale me with how much 717 00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:49,910 money he has how comfortable his life 718 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:52,880 was his trips to Europe his interest in 719 00:39:00,160 --> 00:38:57,050 fine wines and by the way why didn't I 720 00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:00,170 buy a more expensive suit that was a 721 00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:02,620 prerequisite for running for Congress 722 00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:06,710 try as I might to discuss issues with 723 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:10,600 him he was much more interested in 724 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:14,650 haberdashers and tailors and wine and 725 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:18,290 impressing me with his money than 726 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:22,730 anything else I kind of staggered away 727 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:24,710 from that and I told a few people about 728 00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:26,540 what happens and we couldn't believe it 729 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:29,150 I mean this was a guy that was 730 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:33,050 supposedly much on the side of health 731 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:39,130 freedom another very interesting 732 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:44,390 incident occurred when a meeting was 733 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:47,480 called with people who were very much in 734 00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:50,570 the health freedom camp because we were 735 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:52,550 all dissatisfied with this so-called 736 00:39:59,170 --> 00:39:55,730 hatch bill and we thought it should go a 737 00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,180 lot farther than it did and we were 738 00:40:06,190 --> 00:40:02,480 meeting to write an addendum to it which 739 00:40:10,590 --> 00:40:06,200 we would submit to the sponsors of the 740 00:40:13,060 --> 00:40:10,600 bill in Congress we basically wanted 741 00:40:15,460 --> 00:40:13,070 natural health practitioners and 742 00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:15,470 nutritional supplement manufacturers to 743 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:19,220 have the widest possible freedom as long 744 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:23,210 as they were not harming anybody and the 745 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:29,410 supplements obviously were not so 746 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:32,090 somebody called this meeting and there 747 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:33,650 are about 20 of us sitting in the room 748 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:35,510 and they brought in a guy from a local 749 00:40:44,530 --> 00:40:39,440 college who was going to what would you 750 00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:44,540 call it lead the discussion mediate the 751 00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:50,080 conversation and this lunatic was 752 00:40:59,420 --> 00:40:54,060 trained in some method and system 753 00:41:01,700 --> 00:40:59,430 of how you do conversation and he had a 754 00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:01,710 big blackboard and he said so the first 755 00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:04,320 thing I'd like to do and I'm 756 00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:06,620 paraphrasing because my memory isn't 757 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:09,900 absolutely precise on this was let's 758 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:13,050 hear from each of you as to what your 759 00:41:23,660 --> 00:41:18,690 definition of the word health is and I 760 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:23,670 will write it on the blackboard well two 761 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,710 or three people talked and the rest of 762 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:27,200 us looked at each other and we thought 763 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:31,050 man at this rate we're gonna be here for 764 00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:33,210 six or seven hours at the least before 765 00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:36,060 we get down to any business because this 766 00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:38,760 guy is treating us like we're eight year 767 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:42,870 olds and my suspicion was that this 768 00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:44,910 whole meeting was some kind of a put-up 769 00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:49,700 job and a set up and hoax to keep us 770 00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:54,270 from becoming a radical influence shall 771 00:42:00,500 --> 00:41:57,900 we say on the lawmakers who were all set 772 00:42:06,730 --> 00:42:00,510 to try to pass what we thought was a 773 00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:06,740 watered-down bill so I got up and I said 774 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:10,500 let's cut all this crap out that's my 775 00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:12,450 suggestion and you know this guy looked 776 00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:15,480 at me like oh my god you know I said we 777 00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:17,310 don't need any definitions we know what 778 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:20,630 these words mean and we're here to write 779 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:23,970 an addendum to the bill and my 780 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:27,330 suggestion is is that all nutritional 781 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:31,770 supplement sellers have free rein to 782 00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:36,090 sell whatever they want to until and 783 00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:38,280 unless it's shown that their products 784 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:41,340 are harmful because statistics show that 785 00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:44,300 almost nobody is ever killed by 786 00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:46,520 nutritional supplements whereas 787 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,990 pharmaceutical drugs can be very 788 00:42:54,490 --> 00:42:50,880 devastating and a couple people agreed 789 00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:54,500 and with and this guy just kind of 790 00:43:01,970 --> 00:42:59,010 literally slunk out of the room the 791 00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:01,980 mediator the negotiator the host 792 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:05,420 of this meeting he just you know like 793 00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:10,260 faded out and disappeared and I always 794 00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,060 wondered I talked to some people after I 795 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:14,480 said who do you think that guy was 796 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:17,690 somebody said well some kind of a plant 797 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,330 obviously he was put in here to you know 798 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:23,040 derail this whole thing and they could 799 00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:27,000 go nowhere so we did our thing and we 800 00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:30,150 wrote our you know took like 40 minutes 801 00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,460 to write an addendum we submitted it 802 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:34,859 never went anywhere in Congress with the 803 00:43:45,650 --> 00:43:39,570 bill sponsors of course I met with a 804 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:45,660 prominent rabbi in the district and I 805 00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:50,910 said to him look my position is that the 806 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:52,680 negotiations in the Middle East between 807 00:43:59,359 --> 00:43:57,210 the Palestinians and the Israelis all 808 00:44:02,980 --> 00:43:59,369 this stuff as we know is going nowhere 809 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:02,990 but there are groups on both sides 810 00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:06,410 citizens who already know each other and 811 00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:10,350 already want to form their own peace 812 00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:13,590 movement and do their own negotiations 813 00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:16,950 and try to take this from the grassroots 814 00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:20,430 level which i think is you know the way 815 00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:24,750 you've got to go and he said well I 816 00:44:35,859 --> 00:44:30,150 agree with you he said but you've got to 817 00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,869 understand that in this mostly or large 818 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:38,400 population Jewish population in that 819 00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:41,130 particular district he said there are 820 00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:43,230 some issues on which I would be willing 821 00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:45,859 to go up against the incumbent 822 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:48,840 congressman and some I would not and 823 00:44:57,230 --> 00:44:51,330 this is one of those that I'm going to 824 00:45:00,980 --> 00:44:57,240 pass on just not going to ripple the 825 00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:00,990 waters and that was the first political 826 00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:04,020 conversation I had ever had of any 827 00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:08,520 meaning and import with somebody who 828 00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:12,800 basically told me I agree with you but 829 00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:16,400 I'm not gonna do anything I'm backing 830 00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:18,020 away from this I don't want to get 831 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:20,390 involved I appreciate what you're saying 832 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:22,490 but no thanks 833 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:26,240 I thought that was quite interesting to 834 00:45:29,830 --> 00:45:27,950 just be there in the room in a 835 00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,840 conversation like that it's not abstract 836 00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:32,000 it has to do with you know I'm running 837 00:45:37,330 --> 00:45:34,190 for Congress I want this guy support 838 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:37,340 he's a key figure no dice 839 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:43,040 I gave talks during the campaign not 840 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:48,890 very well attended we did manage to 841 00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:51,890 raise some money from one or two 842 00:46:02,190 --> 00:45:56,350 nutritional supplement manufacturers and 843 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:02,200 then 2/3 of the way through the campaign 844 00:46:13,230 --> 00:46:05,690 one day I woke up and I said what would 845 00:46:16,990 --> 00:46:13,240 I do if I won and that stopped me cold 846 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:17,000 paralyzed me what would I do if I 847 00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:19,370 actually somehow by a miracle I won this 848 00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:22,550 thing and I went to Washington because 849 00:46:29,050 --> 00:46:25,220 I'm not in the same ballpark as these 850 00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:29,060 politicians I mean you know it's like 851 00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,030 we're from different planets I'm 852 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:34,160 certainly not going to go along with you 853 00:46:41,650 --> 00:46:36,760 know life in Washington that's for sure 854 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:41,660 well hmm we had started our own campaign 855 00:46:49,450 --> 00:46:46,610 a strategy which was to get exposure we 856 00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:49,460 rented a couple of or a few big trucks 857 00:46:55,450 --> 00:46:53,240 and on the sides of the trucks we had 858 00:47:00,070 --> 00:46:55,460 posters with my name on it you know 859 00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:00,080 Congress blah blah blah running for 860 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:04,840 Congress and we had a few of our people 861 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:08,260 drive these trucks around the district 862 00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:12,290 in the most traffic clogged areas so 863 00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:15,950 they get the most exposure right and I 864 00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:19,310 thought that's what I would do if I went 865 00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:23,480 to Washington we would you know we would 866 00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:25,580 now have a budget 867 00:47:35,350 --> 00:47:32,870 I'd say 15 trucks big ones and we would 868 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:35,360 have drivers drive them slowly around 869 00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:39,050 Washington DC and on the size of the 870 00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:42,260 trucks hoon would be large posters that 871 00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:47,380 said corrupt congressmen of the week 872 00:47:52,210 --> 00:47:50,360 with a picture of the congressman 873 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,220 Democrat Republican didn't make any 874 00:47:59,130 --> 00:47:55,040 difference and in one column and giant 875 00:48:02,080 --> 00:47:59,140 letters would be the money that he took 876 00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:02,090 from whoever he took it from and on the 877 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:04,180 other column on the right side would be 878 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:09,040 the corresponding votes that he made in 879 00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:11,450 alignment with the money that he 880 00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:15,590 received and every week there would be a 881 00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:18,110 new face and the trucks would go out a 882 00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:22,480 new corrupt congressman of the week and 883 00:48:29,590 --> 00:48:27,920 I said to my guys campaign people I said 884 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:29,600 this is going to be the bulk of what we 885 00:48:34,690 --> 00:48:32,330 do if we go to Washington if by some 886 00:48:37,660 --> 00:48:34,700 miracle we win because it's the only 887 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:37,670 thing we can do we have to be the 888 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:40,060 disruptors complete disruptors and 889 00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:42,530 somebody said well yeah I mean in the 890 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:46,070 first month you're gonna get censured by 891 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:51,050 the Congress if you win and they won't 892 00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:52,910 let you on any of the committee's and 893 00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:56,390 people won't talk to you and you know 894 00:48:59,650 --> 00:48:57,830 that kind of thing and I said you know 895 00:49:02,170 --> 00:48:59,660 so what I don't want to be on any of the 896 00:49:06,370 --> 00:49:02,180 committee's I don't want to talk to 897 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:06,380 these guys I never have I've done one or 898 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:09,650 two interviews with politicians up to 899 00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:11,480 that point and I said I didn't enjoy 900 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:14,720 them at all you know it just seemed like 901 00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:20,170 a charade so let's be the disruptors 902 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:22,670 that's what we'll do we'll try to 903 00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,000 disrupt people's hypnotic acceptance of 904 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:30,800 the way Congress operates and we'll 905 00:49:37,089 --> 00:49:33,110 expose as much corruption as we possibly 906 00:49:43,779 --> 00:49:39,370 the people that I talk to about this and 907 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:43,789 my campaign said okay let's do it you 908 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:47,839 know but of course I don't think anybody 909 00:49:56,890 --> 00:49:51,890 expected that we would win so here is 910 00:50:00,699 --> 00:49:56,900 the jackpot on election night we were 911 00:50:03,549 --> 00:50:00,709 the bookstore in Santa Monica and the 912 00:50:06,959 --> 00:50:03,559 polls closed and we were watching the 913 00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:06,969 local news and they said well first we 914 00:50:14,469 --> 00:50:10,160 have the results of the absentee ballots 915 00:50:18,189 --> 00:50:14,479 and my opponent mr. waxman got 80% of 916 00:50:20,949 --> 00:50:18,199 those and I got 20% and they said okay 917 00:50:24,759 --> 00:50:20,959 updates as we have them bah bah bah bah 918 00:50:29,799 --> 00:50:24,769 bah and then somebody said where are 919 00:50:31,569 --> 00:50:29,809 they counting the votes and you know big 920 00:50:35,489 --> 00:50:31,579 silence and then somebody said I know 921 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:35,499 it's down in do nothing was Norwalk 922 00:50:43,269 --> 00:50:38,209 which is south of Los Angeles at the 923 00:50:46,049 --> 00:50:43,279 county registrar's building let's go 924 00:50:48,789 --> 00:50:46,059 down there let's see what's happening 925 00:50:52,089 --> 00:50:48,799 all right great so we all piled into 926 00:50:56,349 --> 00:50:52,099 cars and drove down there very dark the 927 00:51:00,189 --> 00:50:56,359 whole city was dark except for this one 928 00:51:02,409 --> 00:51:00,199 big building that had lights on and as I 929 00:51:04,509 --> 00:51:02,419 recall trucks were driving up and there 930 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:04,519 was a helicopter and all kinds of action 931 00:51:12,669 --> 00:51:07,249 happening which I guess were the votes 932 00:51:14,649 --> 00:51:12,679 being delivered to be counted and about 933 00:51:19,890 --> 00:51:14,659 six of us walked in there and we were 934 00:51:22,779 --> 00:51:19,900 met by some person who reminded me of an 935 00:51:24,819 --> 00:51:22,789 airline attendant you know kind of 936 00:51:28,109 --> 00:51:24,829 walked up to us real bright and cheery 937 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:28,119 this was like 9 o'clock or 9:30 at night 938 00:51:34,149 --> 00:51:30,890 we were all exhausted from the campaign 939 00:51:36,579 --> 00:51:34,159 hi how are you doing my name is Cindy or 940 00:51:38,469 --> 00:51:36,589 whatever you know yeah on the candidate 941 00:51:40,539 --> 00:51:38,479 buzz oh oh well let's let me take you on 942 00:51:47,130 --> 00:51:40,549 a tour and so we all went on the tour 943 00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:47,140 and the first stop was people who were 944 00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,150 assembling the punch cards that's what 945 00:51:55,630 --> 00:51:51,760 they used 946 00:51:59,790 --> 00:51:55,640 into piles and stacks you know at tables 947 00:52:05,460 --> 00:51:59,800 and unclear exactly and we moved on and 948 00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:05,470 then we found a number of computers and 949 00:52:12,580 --> 00:52:08,480 she said oh so these are computers that 950 00:52:15,790 --> 00:52:12,590 have been modified to become processors 951 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:15,800 to count the votes and we looked at 952 00:52:22,660 --> 00:52:20,450 those kind of you know like dumb weather 953 00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:22,670 what are we learning nothing just a 954 00:52:33,370 --> 00:52:26,060 bunch of computers you know that are 955 00:52:35,740 --> 00:52:33,380 counting votes completely opaque then we 956 00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:35,750 were taken into a room that had a few 957 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:38,150 computer monitors and people sitting at 958 00:52:45,790 --> 00:52:41,810 them and she said now every half hour we 959 00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:45,800 get updates on the vote count you can 960 00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:48,590 see those just by looking over the 961 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:50,600 person's shoulder at the screen oh great 962 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:54,410 ok fine so one of us said you know those 963 00:53:00,360 --> 00:52:57,770 computers that were counting votes what 964 00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:00,370 happens after that and she said well 965 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:04,070 upstairs we have a larger computer where 966 00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:08,770 all that feeds into from the downstairs 967 00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:12,820 processors can we see that yes of course 968 00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,310 but you can't go in the room so we took 969 00:53:21,970 --> 00:53:18,800 an elevator upstairs and outside a small 970 00:53:25,390 --> 00:53:21,980 room there was a large computer like a 971 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:25,400 console and we stared at that knowing 972 00:53:34,330 --> 00:53:30,290 nothing and then we said what happens 973 00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:34,340 now and she said oh well the results are 974 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:39,080 sent to a mainframe eight miles away 975 00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:42,050 and then the final tabulation is done 976 00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:46,550 then they come back here really yeah can 977 00:53:49,930 --> 00:53:48,350 we go over there and look at that she 978 00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:49,940 said I'm not sure baby you can get 979 00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,030 permission but we thought well you know 980 00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:55,520 we haven't seen anything so far really 981 00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,090 you know I mean there's no you don't get 982 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:02,240 the feeling that you're you're in 983 00:54:08,190 --> 00:54:04,970 anything you're just staring at machine 984 00:54:11,319 --> 00:54:08,200 and some people and it's all happening 985 00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:11,329 the vote is supposed to be transparent 986 00:54:16,750 --> 00:54:15,260 so we decided to go back to the room 987 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:16,760 where the people were sitting at 988 00:54:23,530 --> 00:54:19,609 monitors so that every twenty minutes or 989 00:54:26,170 --> 00:54:23,540 a half-hour we could see the update we 990 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:26,180 did that for quite a while and here was 991 00:54:35,410 --> 00:54:32,170 every time the update came in with the 992 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:35,420 percentages of the vote my opponent had 993 00:54:46,359 --> 00:54:40,010 80% and I had 20% I think once it varied 994 00:54:47,650 --> 00:54:46,369 all night to 79 and 21 and you know we 995 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:47,660 were looking at each other I said how is 996 00:54:54,099 --> 00:54:51,650 this possible I mean first the absentee 997 00:54:56,170 --> 00:54:54,109 ballots came in 80/20 that was what they 998 00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:56,180 told us on the news now we're seeing the 999 00:55:02,620 --> 00:54:59,240 same thing at every update the 1000 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:02,630 percentages don't change it stays at 1001 00:55:10,930 --> 00:55:08,050 80/20 i mean mathematically you know 1002 00:55:12,450 --> 00:55:10,940 statistically just wouldn't happen that 1003 00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:12,460 way 1004 00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:16,940 so I talked to somebody there I said you 1005 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,710 know how is this possible and so forth 1006 00:55:22,329 --> 00:55:20,480 and they just shrugged and said well you 1007 00:55:23,890 --> 00:55:22,339 you're seeing the count and the 1008 00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:23,900 percentages I can't tell you anything 1009 00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:26,750 more than that and that was the outcome 1010 00:55:37,059 --> 00:55:32,720 of the election 80% 20% what about a 1011 00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:37,069 recount yes that's possible and I'm 1012 00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,780 trying to remember the figure that we 1013 00:55:44,099 --> 00:55:40,400 had to come up with it was something 1014 00:55:48,819 --> 00:55:44,109 like 6 or 7 grand a day to do a a 1015 00:55:50,290 --> 00:55:48,829 recount and how would the recount be 1016 00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,300 done and if I'm remembering correctly 1017 00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:53,359 what they said was we run the cards 1018 00:56:01,210 --> 00:55:58,190 through again well how good is that 1019 00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:01,220 going to be we still don't see anything 1020 00:56:07,569 --> 00:56:03,710 we don't know what's inside the machines 1021 00:56:10,839 --> 00:56:07,579 or how they're programmed what software 1022 00:56:15,350 --> 00:56:10,849 what what are the codes you know you're 1023 00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:19,010 so I spoke with a computer Pro and I 1024 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:23,550 said to him you know should we raise the 1025 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:25,650 money or try to raise the money and do a 1026 00:56:33,410 --> 00:56:26,310 recount 1027 00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:33,420 and this is what he said to me a guy 1028 00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:36,870 with a laptop and a phone this was again 1029 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:43,830 1994 could tap in to the process of 1030 00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:51,330 counting votes change the codes get the 1031 00:56:57,950 --> 00:56:55,980 percentages that were desired put the 1032 00:57:02,870 --> 00:56:57,960 original code back and you would never 1033 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:02,880 know what happened I said so you're 1034 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:04,890 telling me that you know he said yeah 1035 00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:08,490 that's what I'm telling you and that was 1036 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:14,730 the end of that subsequently read a 1037 00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:17,370 great deal more about vote counting vote 1038 00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:19,380 machines who owns the machines vote 1039 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:24,390 fraud followed it since then in several 1040 00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:31,470 elections to see again prop 37 in 1041 00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:34,980 California was definitely a moment that 1042 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:40,500 was to label GMO food a ballot 1043 00:57:46,850 --> 00:57:43,290 initiative where I believe there was a 1044 00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:46,860 good chance of vote fraud learned a 1045 00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:48,630 great deal more about the subject since 1046 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:51,390 then but my personal experience in that 1047 00:57:59,180 --> 00:57:55,890 election was I got as close as you could 1048 00:58:04,670 --> 00:57:59,190 possibly get as a candidate to see the 1049 00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:04,680 process of vote count I can't tell you 1050 00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:08,040 what happened exactly because I don't 1051 00:58:15,770 --> 00:58:11,160 know because as close as I could get 1052 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:15,780 there is nothing to see nothing to see 1053 00:58:26,030 --> 00:58:20,490 and that is the political lesson that I 1054 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:26,040 learned nothing to see here move along 1055 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:28,650 I gotta admit John that's one of the 1056 00:58:33,470 --> 00:58:31,290 best stories I've heard in a long time 1057 00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:33,480 and I did a couple of face slap Cup a 1058 00:58:40,940 --> 00:58:37,020 couple of face palms on that that that 1059 00:58:45,620 --> 00:58:40,950 precious man running Ron DC with corrupt 1060 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:45,630 congressman of the week posters yeah 1061 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:48,090 yeah what a great idea and I could only 1062 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:49,970 am at what you see this is the thing 1063 00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:53,640 you're so glad that you didn't win if 1064 00:58:59,570 --> 00:58:55,740 you would have won you would have been 1065 00:59:03,680 --> 00:58:59,580 such a disrupter in the system you might 1066 00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,690 have been one and done right but oh I 1067 00:59:09,770 --> 00:59:06,000 don't think you'd be any question right 1068 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:09,780 but what a great story what just what a 1069 00:59:13,820 --> 00:59:11,850 great story and you're absolutely right 1070 00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,830 you can't get any closer to the system 1071 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:15,780 than that and what did you find out 1072 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:19,410 nothing yeah that's uh that's that's 1073 00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:21,330 really a trip man that's really a trip 1074 00:59:28,610 --> 00:59:23,460 thank you for sharing that with us my 1075 00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:28,620 friend and I wanted to route of time but 1076 00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:31,980 at one point I want to I want to talk to 1077 00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:35,880 you about the McMartin case and today 1078 00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:37,950 was the anniversary of the indictments 1079 00:59:42,110 --> 00:59:39,390 going down but I've got to get out of 1080 00:59:45,140 --> 00:59:42,120 here and get our guest on but yeah what 1081 00:59:47,810 --> 00:59:45,150 a fascinating case right and yeah yeah 1082 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:47,820 thank you so much John be safe and be 1083 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:50,130 well out there and a go run for Congress 1084 00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:52,650 you've got my support Thank You Jimmy 1085 00:59:57,770 --> 00:59:55,110 I'll talk to you Jon Rappoport everybody 1086 01:00:00,790 --> 00:59:57,780 and do what I do every single day which 1087 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:00,800 is start your day at no more fake 1088 01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:05,010 news.com John started that twenty years 1089 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:05,640 ago 1090 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:07,530 alright this fade to black I'm heroes 1091 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:09,810 Jimmy Church this show is dedicated to 1092 01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:13,050 Lin Lewis she's out there laughing right 1093 01:00:16,180 --> 01:00:15,240 now with John I'll be right back with 1094 01:00:19,400 --> 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to 1166 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:26,020 lynn Lewis and I do want to thank Jon 1167 01:04:31,110 --> 01:04:27,970 Rappoport for coming him 1168 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:31,120 no more fake newsroom why that's uh was 1169 01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:33,610 one of the best segments that he has 1170 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:35,110 done over the last couple of years that 1171 01:04:39,390 --> 01:04:37,690 was absolutely amazing it's been a while 1172 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:39,400 since Yvonne has been on the show with 1173 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:42,610 us but she became concerned with victims 1174 01:04:46,910 --> 01:04:44,140 of post-traumatic stress disorder 1175 01:04:49,410 --> 01:04:46,920 otherwise known as PTSD in the late 1176 01:04:50,940 --> 01:04:49,420 1980s and in 1990 received her 1177 01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:50,950 certification from the California 1178 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:53,620 hypnosis motivation Institute and she 1179 01:04:58,770 --> 01:04:56,770 immediately began to work with PS PTSD 1180 01:05:01,320 --> 01:04:58,780 victims assisting them and encouraging 1181 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:01,330 them to work through and cope with their 1182 01:05:06,780 --> 01:05:04,810 PTSD observing that many of her subjects 1183 01:05:08,610 --> 01:05:06,790 were describing a pattern of alien 1184 01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:08,620 abduction and other close encounter 1185 01:05:13,860 --> 01:05:11,800 experiences in 1991 Yvonne founded zero 1186 01:05:16,470 --> 01:05:13,870 close encounter resource organization 1187 01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:16,480 right here in Los Angeles which provides 1188 01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:18,700 personal attention and maintains active 1189 01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:20,790 monthly support group meetings where 1190 01:05:25,710 --> 01:05:23,440 PTSD victims share their thoughts and 1191 01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:25,720 feelings about their unusual experiences 1192 01:05:31,050 --> 01:05:28,990 now while maintaining personal contact 1193 01:05:33,660 --> 01:05:31,060 with their subjects since 1991 1194 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:33,670 Yvonne extensively collector with 1195 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:36,610 Harvard's John Mac Budd Hopkins and 1196 01:05:41,070 --> 01:05:38,890 David Jacobs right here in the United 1197 01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:41,080 States at MIT and several other 1198 01:05:45,930 --> 01:05:43,780 universities her television appearances 1199 01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:45,940 have included MSNBC the Discovery 1200 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:48,070 Channel History Channel Montel Williams 1201 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:51,130 Show encounters sightings Roseanne Barr 1202 01:05:56,580 --> 01:05:54,250 the Joan Rivers show and the Leeza show 1203 01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:56,590 she has published two books Coronado 1204 01:06:01,020 --> 01:05:58,450 which I have here and have read a couple 1205 01:06:04,410 --> 01:06:01,030 of times amazing book and most recently 1206 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:04,420 chosen recollections of UFO abductions 1207 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:06,610 through hip mo therapy and I would like 1208 01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:07,930 to welcome back to fade to black our 1209 01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:09,340 good friend the one and only 1210 01:06:15,630 --> 01:06:12,310 Yvonne Smith Yvonne good evening how are 1211 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:15,640 you I'm fine Jimmy thank you for having 1212 01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:20,410 me in Lund how is life life is wonderful 1213 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:23,350 I'm enjoying this rain we certainly need 1214 01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:27,410 it and doing your show 1215 01:06:33,069 --> 01:06:30,319 rain you know anywhere else in the 1216 01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:33,079 country everybody is bummed here I'll 1217 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:35,599 run around the streets buck-naked 1218 01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:37,609 and enjoy this because we just don't get 1219 01:06:41,529 --> 01:06:38,960 it you know we just don't get it and 1220 01:06:43,660 --> 01:06:41,539 it's just absolutely it hasn't stopped 1221 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:43,670 now you know I was talking about this 1222 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:46,730 last night on the show really it's been 1223 01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,650 raining for a week straight everybody's 1224 01:06:52,839 --> 01:06:50,720 talking about these last two days right 1225 01:06:54,730 --> 01:06:52,849 but it's been raining pretty pretty 1226 01:06:58,450 --> 01:06:54,740 steady here for about a week it's just I 1227 01:07:01,539 --> 01:06:58,460 I loved every second of it I do too I 1228 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:01,549 just say prayers for the people who live 1229 01:07:07,059 --> 01:07:05,210 in the burn area Nicole who lives up in 1230 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:07,069 Santa Barbara they've had to evacuate 1231 01:07:11,529 --> 01:07:09,650 three times so I'm just hoping and 1232 01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,539 praying that this time no one is hurt or 1233 01:07:16,839 --> 01:07:14,240 killed so sending some positive thoughts 1234 01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:16,849 their way but at the same time just 1235 01:07:22,299 --> 01:07:18,799 thanking the universe that we're getting 1236 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:22,309 this rain because we do need it yeah no 1237 01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:25,369 doubt about that no doubt and what's 1238 01:07:30,250 --> 01:07:28,640 really cool is we moved you from last 1239 01:07:32,980 --> 01:07:30,260 night to tonight because you've been 1240 01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:32,990 hanging out with a grant Cameron he 1241 01:07:37,539 --> 01:07:35,630 spoke here in Los Angeles for the last 1242 01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:37,549 two days and you were at his event last 1243 01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:40,849 night down in Laguna how'd that go how 1244 01:07:47,859 --> 01:07:44,960 was it well we had some of my serum 1245 01:07:51,370 --> 01:07:47,869 members and I took him out to lunch down 1246 01:07:53,140 --> 01:07:51,380 there in Newport Beach and I think we 1247 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:53,150 concluded the lunch about three o'clock 1248 01:08:00,960 --> 01:07:55,490 and as it turned out I had to get back 1249 01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:00,970 home and so my C remembers attended the 1250 01:08:10,059 --> 01:08:05,119 lecture and they said it went very well 1251 01:08:13,450 --> 01:08:10,069 and he he even talked about my new book 1252 01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:13,460 chosen and that the new book 1253 01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:17,600 Jimmy the one that I just published the 1254 01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:19,940 subtitle for that is from the alien 1255 01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:23,710 hybrid program to the fate of the planet 1256 01:08:29,979 --> 01:08:27,679 my first book chosen is the one that you 1257 01:08:32,530 --> 01:08:29,989 had mentioned previously which is still 1258 01:08:34,990 --> 01:08:32,540 on I know they're selling used copies on 1259 01:08:40,110 --> 01:08:35,000 Amazon but this new one which has a 1260 01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:40,120 white cover is on Amazon as well and 1261 01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:43,720 grant wrote the foreword and he 1262 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:45,430 mentioned the book last night because we 1263 01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:48,850 were talking at lunch about the 1264 01:09:00,780 --> 01:08:55,600 experiencers and how the abduction how 1265 01:09:04,230 --> 01:09:00,790 abductions really revolves around the 1266 01:09:09,390 --> 01:09:04,240 hybrid program and the experience the 1267 01:09:14,820 --> 01:09:09,400 experiences so he he and I are just 1268 01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:14,830 right on the same page about that and so 1269 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:19,270 he he did a very interesting talk you 1270 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:21,730 know I find him to be one of the most 1271 01:09:26,730 --> 01:09:25,090 credible people in the field and I have 1272 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:26,740 a lot of respect for him as a colleague 1273 01:09:32,610 --> 01:09:30,250 and friend yeah one of one of my prized 1274 01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:32,620 possessions is a picture of you and I 1275 01:09:38,130 --> 01:09:36,640 and Grant years ago to it'syou know that 1276 01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:38,140 was like that was like five years ago 1277 01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:42,960 now I think did you put out a picture on 1278 01:09:49,110 --> 01:09:46,750 Facebook just this week about you and I 1279 01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:49,120 took a picture together at the contact 1280 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:51,070 in the desert a couple years ago which I 1281 01:09:56,670 --> 01:09:52,810 thought was a great picture yes it was 1282 01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:56,680 yeah I remember that and we've we've 1283 01:10:03,570 --> 01:09:59,290 that's that's what the amazing thing is 1284 01:10:05,550 --> 01:10:03,580 about us and our community in that you 1285 01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:05,560 and I you know we've got contact and 1286 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:07,060 we've got our friends and our support 1287 01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:10,330 groups in this circle and you were out 1288 01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:12,670 there doing so much work and so are you 1289 01:10:17,010 --> 01:10:14,830 you know I've ran into you in Roswell 1290 01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:17,020 right we got to hang out all weekend and 1291 01:10:23,790 --> 01:10:20,350 your son and the next thing you know the 1292 01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:23,800 years go by and and here you are on the 1293 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:25,600 show I can't believe it's been like four 1294 01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:27,610 years since you were with us and so much 1295 01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:31,000 has happened since then and actually 1296 01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:35,200 want to address that I want to go pretty 1297 01:10:41,550 --> 01:10:38,440 deep pretty direct right away and it's 1298 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:41,560 this with everything that is going on 1299 01:10:49,530 --> 01:10:47,110 today with disclosure the things coming 1300 01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:49,540 out of not only the Pentagon in these 1301 01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:51,310 videos but there's other things that are 1302 01:10:56,340 --> 01:10:53,140 happening too as well with 1303 01:10:59,850 --> 01:10:56,350 with experiencers and abductors and our 1304 01:11:02,130 --> 01:10:59,860 community that is growing the there 1305 01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:02,140 there is something going on here that 1306 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:06,190 can't be ignored anymore and there are 1307 01:11:11,550 --> 01:11:08,170 those out there that want to say that 1308 01:11:12,690 --> 01:11:11,560 millions of experiencers and abductees 1309 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:12,700 are crazy 1310 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:15,610 and it's absolutely the opposite isn't 1311 01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:18,730 it right exactly 1312 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:22,600 um you know people can say that they're 1313 01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:26,530 crazy you know I don't listen to that 1314 01:11:32,910 --> 01:11:29,230 anymore I mean we're pretty much beyond 1315 01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,920 that you know the skeptics are still 1316 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:34,480 gonna be out there the bunkers are still 1317 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:38,860 gonna be out there but you know we have 1318 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:43,330 so much evidence now about you know now 1319 01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:45,970 not just the craft in the sky that are 1320 01:11:54,620 --> 01:11:51,100 tracked on radar but we have millions of 1321 01:11:58,140 --> 01:11:54,630 people who are talking about these 1322 01:12:00,360 --> 01:11:58,150 experiences I mean people from all over 1323 01:12:04,530 --> 01:12:00,370 the world when I have lectured in other 1324 01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:04,540 parts of the world I present my you know 1325 01:12:09,420 --> 01:12:06,910 PowerPoint presentation and even if 1326 01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:09,430 people don't speak English they'll come 1327 01:12:16,170 --> 01:12:12,340 up with an interpreter and something 1328 01:12:19,170 --> 01:12:16,180 will resonate with them from my from my 1329 01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:19,180 slides and and artwork that experiences 1330 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:21,910 have done over the years and here they 1331 01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:24,310 are and say Italy or Brazil and they're 1332 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:27,220 talking about the same experience so you 1333 01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:29,530 know this is a worldwide phenomenon it's 1334 01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:32,800 more widespread than then the general 1335 01:12:38,970 --> 01:12:35,430 public public was probably care to know 1336 01:12:43,230 --> 01:12:38,980 because I know it many times 1337 01:12:45,690 --> 01:12:43,240 I mean frightens people they feel that 1338 01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:45,700 you know they're their little world is 1339 01:12:50,430 --> 01:12:48,190 going to be shattered and it will be you 1340 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:50,440 know when they realize there is 1341 01:12:58,440 --> 01:12:54,250 something more to our world and what's 1342 01:13:01,470 --> 01:12:58,450 going on around us you know we have we 1343 01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:01,480 have marks and scars that come up 1344 01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:03,880 overnight with people I'm talking about 1345 01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:06,910 geometric mark I 1346 01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:10,260 the triangles because they're very 1347 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:13,060 difficult to explain the way it those 1348 01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:14,650 somewhere you just bumped on the door 1349 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:16,840 you know how do you bump in the door in 1350 01:13:22,230 --> 01:13:19,810 a triangular form you know there's 1351 01:13:27,450 --> 01:13:22,240 needle marks in these triangles there's 1352 01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:27,460 bruises or skin the skin is raised often 1353 01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:31,360 within these triangles we have you know 1354 01:13:38,340 --> 01:13:35,580 we're still working on the implants 1355 01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:38,350 since my dear friend and colleague dr. 1356 01:13:46,130 --> 01:13:40,860 Roger Leir passed away a few years ago 1357 01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:46,140 I'm still trying to bring on board 1358 01:13:52,770 --> 01:13:49,300 another surgeon who's willing to do the 1359 01:13:57,570 --> 01:13:52,780 work we do not have to use the doctors 1360 01:14:01,470 --> 01:13:57,580 name we just need someone who is willing 1361 01:14:04,170 --> 01:14:01,480 to to extract these objects and then we 1362 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:04,180 can send them off to the lab now I will 1363 01:14:11,190 --> 01:14:09,250 be talking to a doctor soon I said if we 1364 01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:11,200 could arrange a meeting he does not live 1365 01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:13,720 in California but I understand he's 1366 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:17,830 interested in the subject and possibly 1367 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:21,010 doing the the surgeries so I'll have to 1368 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:23,890 update you on that because I was 1369 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:27,640 speaking to my colleague chase klasky at 1370 01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:32,050 the UFL Congress this past February last 1371 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:35,230 month and she told me that there was a 1372 01:14:41,970 --> 01:14:37,930 doctor that was very interested so you 1373 01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:41,980 know we have a lot of work to do but we 1374 01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:46,150 still have to continue because people 1375 01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:48,160 are constantly contacting me and saying 1376 01:14:53,130 --> 01:14:50,470 they feel they have something in their 1377 01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:53,140 bodies some of them want to look at it 1378 01:15:00,900 --> 01:14:56,620 and removing them others do not but 1379 01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:00,910 there's so many people that they feel 1380 01:15:08,100 --> 01:15:03,310 that they may have had this experience 1381 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:08,110 so and as I mentioned before the UFO 1382 01:15:17,090 --> 01:15:12,090 phenomena all of this it revolves around 1383 01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:17,100 the experiences the abduction scenario 1384 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:21,040 that is the main eye 1385 01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:23,170 feel that that is didn't mean focus of 1386 01:15:29,940 --> 01:15:26,580 these alien beans they need us I 1387 01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:29,950 remember the first time you showed me a 1388 01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:32,260 set of photographs of the triangles 1389 01:15:38,030 --> 01:15:35,260 right and I'm looking at those and this 1390 01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:38,040 is what I thought to myself you know I'm 1391 01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:42,340 today I'm 54 and so but I remember when 1392 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:43,540 I was first looking at those pictures 1393 01:15:52,890 --> 01:15:48,250 and I thought to myself I have never had 1394 01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:52,900 a triangle bruise right never how does 1395 01:15:58,590 --> 01:15:55,600 that happen how does that happen in 1396 01:16:00,810 --> 01:15:58,600 nature and I found myself looking you 1397 01:16:03,870 --> 01:16:00,820 know like looking around what do I have 1398 01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:03,880 that is a triangle that I could bump 1399 01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:07,840 into that would cause that and it's just 1400 01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:11,020 exactly it's a fascinating thing to stop 1401 01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:12,880 and think about and I ask anybody to do 1402 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:14,470 the same thing look at the photographs 1403 01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:17,770 now take a look around your house what 1404 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:21,910 do you have what do you have that's a 1405 01:16:26,670 --> 01:16:23,680 triangle that you could bump into that's 1406 01:16:31,770 --> 01:16:26,680 going to cause that mark and that I 1407 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:31,780 passed a couple of my doctor friends you 1408 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:33,610 know and they can't they can't explain 1409 01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:35,610 how that happened so that's why I 1410 01:16:41,550 --> 01:16:39,310 present mainly the triangles now I just 1411 01:16:42,780 --> 01:16:41,560 had one person come up with the triangle 1412 01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:42,790 I probably wouldn't even put it in my 1413 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:45,160 right my lecture but you know I've had 1414 01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:49,090 several over the years and as I 1415 01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:52,420 mentioned some of them look like they've 1416 01:17:02,160 --> 01:16:57,120 been burned on others look like they're 1417 01:17:04,740 --> 01:17:02,170 it there's three dots but needle marks 1418 01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:04,750 or needle marks within the triangle 1419 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:08,590 several needle marks if these appear 1420 01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:13,540 overnight so if anyone happens to have 1421 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:16,180 something appear overnight that they 1422 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:18,370 knew for sure was not there the night 1423 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,930 before and usually was very unusual 1424 01:17:29,670 --> 01:17:25,360 about these marks and scars and it 1425 01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:29,680 usually doesn't cause pain so the person 1426 01:17:34,570 --> 01:17:33,430 doesn't notice them right away but take 1427 01:17:38,170 --> 01:17:34,580 a picture 1428 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:38,180 you know begin to document the marks 1429 01:17:44,650 --> 01:17:40,010 that come up on your body or very 1430 01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:44,660 stranger vivid dreams you I leo I call 1431 01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:47,120 it high strangeness there's a lot of 1432 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:48,560 high strangeness connected with this 1433 01:17:57,630 --> 01:17:54,050 phenomenon so because at some point you 1434 01:18:02,500 --> 01:17:57,640 may want to look into this down the road 1435 01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:02,510 through regressive hypnosis and at some 1436 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:05,510 point your children are going to start 1437 01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:08,320 talking about this high strangeness and 1438 01:18:13,870 --> 01:18:11,360 people have come to me parents who said 1439 01:18:15,940 --> 01:18:13,880 oh my god my five-year-old is starting 1440 01:18:18,190 --> 01:18:15,950 to talk to me about something come in 1441 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:18,200 their room and I've been putting it on 1442 01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:20,480 the back burner for so many years but I 1443 01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:22,790 feel like I need to find out what 1444 01:18:29,770 --> 01:18:25,760 happened to me so I can help my children 1445 01:18:32,770 --> 01:18:29,780 and I've had that so many times from 1446 01:18:35,290 --> 01:18:32,780 parents because this begins in childhood 1447 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:35,300 and it follows a person throughout their 1448 01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:39,770 life and it it runs in the family it's a 1449 01:18:46,660 --> 01:18:44,110 family affair I call it now what is it 1450 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:46,670 there's probably a few things but I'm 1451 01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:49,010 sure because you've done so many 1452 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:51,830 sessions and you're so respected in the 1453 01:18:58,690 --> 01:18:55,850 community that you have done so many 1454 01:19:02,050 --> 01:18:58,700 sessions and as you're going through 1455 01:19:05,770 --> 01:19:02,060 another session somebody's going to say 1456 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:05,780 something that you go okay you know holy 1457 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:08,420 crap right here we go again and it's 1458 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:11,690 some consistent thing like what is that 1459 01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:14,330 and then after you answer that don't 1460 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:18,320 forget then is there a point in some 1461 01:19:22,990 --> 01:19:20,450 sessions where you go okay we got to 1462 01:19:25,570 --> 01:19:23,000 stop you weren't abducted there's 1463 01:19:27,550 --> 01:19:25,580 something else going on here and but you 1464 01:19:28,990 --> 01:19:27,560 weren't abducted so let's do the first 1465 01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:29,000 question first and then we'll do the 1466 01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:36,710 second when I started doing the 1467 01:19:48,250 --> 01:19:41,600 regressions in 26 years now I was amazed 1468 01:19:50,830 --> 01:19:48,260 as I began getting more clients and 1469 01:19:54,819 --> 01:19:50,840 you know talking about these strange 1470 01:19:57,839 --> 01:19:54,829 dreams and so forth so from person to 1471 01:20:02,560 --> 01:19:57,849 person I was amazed when they began 1472 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:02,570 describing the head procedures I mean I 1473 01:20:08,589 --> 01:20:04,489 almost got to the point where I waited 1474 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:08,599 for it needles in on the top of the head 1475 01:20:17,229 --> 01:20:12,530 needles behind in the back of the head 1476 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:17,239 to where the neck meets the the spinal 1477 01:20:23,979 --> 01:20:19,730 column I'm not a medical person I don't 1478 01:20:25,020 --> 01:20:23,989 have technical terms for this needles in 1479 01:20:27,580 --> 01:20:25,030 the ears 1480 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:27,590 usually it's concentrated on maybe the 1481 01:20:35,259 --> 01:20:32,690 left ear the right ear needles in their 1482 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:35,269 nasal passage and but spoke about this 1483 01:20:41,589 --> 01:20:38,210 many years ago and and you know he was 1484 01:20:45,879 --> 01:20:41,599 my mentor when and this was way before 1485 01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:45,889 we even talked about implants I mean we 1486 01:20:52,810 --> 01:20:48,800 were not even you know we weren't even 1487 01:20:55,419 --> 01:20:52,820 aware that okay what are these are our 1488 01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:55,429 these alien beings doing with these with 1489 01:21:01,509 --> 01:20:58,570 these needles you know but had an idea 1490 01:21:04,209 --> 01:21:01,519 because he had an x-ray of a woman who 1491 01:21:09,790 --> 01:21:04,219 had it it looked like a corkscrew type 1492 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:09,800 object in her nose but I was I I 1493 01:21:15,759 --> 01:21:13,010 couldn't believe what I was hearing from 1494 01:21:17,950 --> 01:21:15,769 person to person these people didn't 1495 01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,960 know each other they came from different 1496 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:19,760 parts of the country when these things 1497 01:21:29,919 --> 01:21:25,610 happen to them so that's why i sat there 1498 01:21:32,410 --> 01:21:29,929 I said oh my god you know this is real 1499 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:32,420 these people aren't making this up and 1500 01:21:38,020 --> 01:21:34,610 it's you know a their feet the deep 1501 01:21:43,930 --> 01:21:38,030 emotion that happens during a session 1502 01:21:46,810 --> 01:21:43,940 when they're reliving the experience and 1503 01:21:49,299 --> 01:21:46,820 then you had asked if I have somebody in 1504 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:49,309 hypnosis and I came to the conclusion 1505 01:21:58,569 --> 01:21:55,130 that they weren't abducted it's very 1506 01:22:02,260 --> 01:21:58,579 very rarely do I get to the point where 1507 01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:02,270 I have them in hypnosis usually I could 1508 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:05,840 I could lead them out going through the 1509 01:22:10,410 --> 01:22:07,760 vetting process after I send out my 1510 01:22:12,850 --> 01:22:10,420 questionnaires and I interview them and 1511 01:22:17,230 --> 01:22:12,860 can I look at their background I look at 1512 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:17,240 the family history I could I could 1513 01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:19,250 pretty much weed them out you don't I 1514 01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:22,960 become like a homicide detective 1515 01:22:28,290 --> 01:22:25,880 comparative right and I've I've spoken 1516 01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:28,300 to you know a couple of detectives 1517 01:22:34,930 --> 01:22:30,260 because I used to work for the LA 1518 01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:34,940 Superior Court many years ago and they 1519 01:22:39,610 --> 01:22:37,040 get they have a sixth sense they know 1520 01:22:41,620 --> 01:22:39,620 they can sense when somebody's telling 1521 01:22:44,290 --> 01:22:41,630 them the truth or well if they know what 1522 01:22:49,150 --> 01:22:44,300 there was holding something and I think 1523 01:22:50,890 --> 01:22:49,160 I developed that with this work but 1524 01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:50,900 every once in a while if I could 1525 01:22:57,490 --> 01:22:54,080 probably count it on one hand where the 1526 01:23:01,450 --> 01:22:57,500 person had a dream and they wanted to 1527 01:23:04,630 --> 01:23:01,460 look into it and it very rarely you know 1528 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:04,640 all talent and hypnosis and nothing 1529 01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:09,650 comes through now it's hard to to make 1530 01:23:15,010 --> 01:23:12,110 that assessment after the very first 1531 01:23:18,610 --> 01:23:15,020 session because everybody reacts 1532 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:18,620 differently there many times there's 1533 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:21,170 blocks where a person can't get past a 1534 01:23:30,970 --> 01:23:27,250 certain point whether it's fear in their 1535 01:23:34,510 --> 01:23:30,980 fear or the subconscious is blocking and 1536 01:23:36,820 --> 01:23:34,520 that's what our subconscious does is its 1537 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:36,830 job is to protect us from something 1538 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:40,610 frightening or traumatic or it's the 1539 01:23:50,740 --> 01:23:44,690 alien beings who have tried to block the 1540 01:23:53,290 --> 01:23:50,750 person's mind so it usually takes you 1541 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:53,300 know more than one session and when that 1542 01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:56,330 happens when I've already had them in 1543 01:24:00,360 --> 01:23:56,960 hypnosis 1544 01:24:04,030 --> 01:24:00,370 I'll have them come back as I suspect 1545 01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,040 that there is a block there that we have 1546 01:24:08,380 --> 01:24:06,560 to get through and everybody's different 1547 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:08,390 so sometimes it could take you know two 1548 01:24:15,070 --> 01:24:12,290 sessions sometimes you know more but 1549 01:24:16,679 --> 01:24:15,080 usually I'm pretty successful in getting 1550 01:24:20,259 --> 01:24:16,689 to the block 1551 01:24:22,899 --> 01:24:20,269 the other part of it and I was just 1552 01:24:26,890 --> 01:24:22,909 listening to you you you reminded me I 1553 01:24:29,589 --> 01:24:26,900 had a friend a musician friend back in 1554 01:24:32,319 --> 01:24:29,599 the 80s here in Southern California and 1555 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:32,329 he and I go over to his house one day 1556 01:24:37,689 --> 01:24:35,090 and I go in and and he introduces me to 1557 01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:37,699 his parents and his dad's a detective 1558 01:24:45,850 --> 01:24:41,630 right I'm a kid and I'm like 21 in 1559 01:24:47,319 --> 01:24:45,860 Pasadena and his dad just asking me a 1560 01:24:56,739 --> 01:24:47,329 few questions about what you know about 1561 01:24:59,259 --> 01:24:56,749 me about I never went back they have got 1562 01:25:03,909 --> 01:24:59,269 that ability to suck the truth out of 1563 01:25:05,770 --> 01:25:03,919 you you are so right I was just thinking 1564 01:25:09,219 --> 01:25:05,780 about that I never went back let's go 1565 01:25:12,969 --> 01:25:09,229 freaked out over again it's like you 1566 01:25:15,370 --> 01:25:12,979 know the he he what's the word he 1567 01:25:17,409 --> 01:25:15,380 controlled me you know and they have 1568 01:25:19,149 --> 01:25:17,419 that ability to do that so yeah you're 1569 01:25:23,129 --> 01:25:19,159 absolutely right once you pick up that 1570 01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:23,139 sense so you can weed it out have you 1571 01:25:29,529 --> 01:25:26,630 out of your percentage because you do so 1572 01:25:39,399 --> 01:25:29,539 many sessions how many do you end up 1573 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:39,409 rejecting oh gosh it's you know I'm not 1574 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:41,449 sure about four it's a small percentage 1575 01:25:50,799 --> 01:25:48,050 because because I could when I review 1576 01:25:57,399 --> 01:25:50,809 their questionnaires and I go through 1577 01:26:00,339 --> 01:25:57,409 the interview I I pretty much know if 1578 01:26:03,549 --> 01:26:00,349 this person is is gone through these 1579 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:03,559 experiences or going through you know 1580 01:26:12,449 --> 01:26:09,650 the big red flag is to me is when they 1581 01:26:16,270 --> 01:26:12,459 when I ask them about their family right 1582 01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:16,280 their parents their grandparents and so 1583 01:26:22,419 --> 01:26:19,510 forth so that's amazing when some people 1584 01:26:25,629 --> 01:26:22,429 well finally ask their parents or 1585 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:25,639 grandparents sometimes the grandparents 1586 01:26:27,580 --> 01:26:27,050 oh all of a sudden there's a great 1587 01:26:29,709 --> 01:26:27,590 example 1588 01:26:32,890 --> 01:26:29,719 oh yeah I remember 1589 01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:32,900 you know I saw these these I don't know 1590 01:26:37,570 --> 01:26:34,880 what she called them I don't know if she 1591 01:26:39,939 --> 01:26:37,580 called them ghosts or something that you 1592 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:39,949 don't would come in the house and and 1593 01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:42,290 you know I had this one client I said oh 1594 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:44,510 my god grandma you never told me that 1595 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:47,690 it's like she came out from out of the 1596 01:26:52,780 --> 01:26:49,370 clear blue and maybe because she was 1597 01:26:54,970 --> 01:26:52,790 getting older you know and I think she 1598 01:26:57,939 --> 01:26:54,980 may have wanted to talk about it but 1599 01:27:02,200 --> 01:26:57,949 I've have so many instances of that it 1600 01:27:04,150 --> 01:27:02,210 was amazing oh I get it I totally get 1601 01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:04,160 that yeah yeah you're right 1602 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:06,560 and you know the reason why I'm asking 1603 01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:09,530 this is great for the audience to hear 1604 01:27:15,490 --> 01:27:12,340 because they can also do their own 1605 01:27:18,189 --> 01:27:15,500 assessment you know on the press and go 1606 01:27:20,530 --> 01:27:18,199 oh all right well I don't need to talk 1607 01:27:23,020 --> 01:27:20,540 to Yvonne but I definitely need to talk 1608 01:27:25,420 --> 01:27:23,030 to somebody but it's not going to be 1609 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:25,430 about that let's let's take a break 1610 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:26,810 right here we got to take a break so 1611 01:27:30,729 --> 01:27:28,130 let's do that right now our guest 1612 01:27:34,150 --> 01:27:30,739 tonight is Yvonne Smith hypnotherapist 1613 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:34,160 and you've got to check out if you go to 1614 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:36,050 Yvonne's website her books are right 1615 01:27:41,020 --> 01:27:39,170 there and Siro International is it right 1616 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:41,030 there on the front of Jimmy Church radio 1617 01:27:45,340 --> 01:27:43,730 calm you can just click I'm 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--> 01:31:47,010 assuming Church you can follow me on 1689 01:31:55,459 --> 01:31:51,199 twitter at JDO Twitter's on fire and 1690 01:31:57,770 --> 01:31:55,469 this shows dedicated to our fader mom 1691 01:32:00,800 --> 01:31:57,780 Lynn Lewis who passed away on Sunday and 1692 01:32:03,919 --> 01:32:00,810 Lynn Lewis founded zero close encounter 1693 01:32:06,140 --> 01:32:03,929 resource organization back in 1991 she's 1694 01:32:09,740 --> 01:32:06,150 with us tonight and what I wanted to ask 1695 01:32:10,340 --> 01:32:09,750 you Yvonne is what what what do they 1696 01:32:14,959 --> 01:32:10,350 want 1697 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:14,969 what does et1 what are they doing with 1698 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:16,770 it with these abductions in these Close 1699 01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:20,810 Encounters oh well that's the ultimate 1700 01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:22,800 million-dollar question I'm asked that 1701 01:32:29,180 --> 01:32:25,380 all the time 1702 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:29,190 you know I wish I had a definitive 1703 01:32:35,359 --> 01:32:31,650 answer because I asked them of course I 1704 01:32:42,169 --> 01:32:35,369 don't get any answers but as I mentioned 1705 01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:42,179 I am convinced that the abductions all 1706 01:32:51,109 --> 01:32:48,270 the procedures the the whole process I 1707 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:51,119 mean it's more than just the medical 1708 01:32:57,050 --> 01:32:54,810 procedures of course they they take our 1709 01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:57,060 DNA though it's they're very interested 1710 01:33:02,950 --> 01:32:59,760 in it they need us for that they take 1711 01:33:07,250 --> 01:33:02,960 over they take they create this hybrid 1712 01:33:10,970 --> 01:33:07,260 race people have been shown babies they 1713 01:33:15,070 --> 01:33:10,980 they're abducted over and over and shown 1714 01:33:17,330 --> 01:33:15,080 the different stages of their children 1715 01:33:20,359 --> 01:33:17,340 because usually there's more than one 1716 01:33:24,260 --> 01:33:20,369 that they have more more than one hybrid 1717 01:33:30,620 --> 01:33:24,270 child but these babies these children 1718 01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:30,630 are growing and they they are now here 1719 01:33:37,419 --> 01:33:34,310 on earth and I'm not saying you know 1720 01:33:43,070 --> 01:33:37,429 five hundred thousand or a million but 1721 01:33:48,490 --> 01:33:43,080 people have felt that they interacted 1722 01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:48,500 with a hybrid or an individual who 1723 01:33:54,260 --> 01:33:52,110 looked very human but when you began to 1724 01:33:55,910 --> 01:33:54,270 interact with them engage with them in 1725 01:34:02,780 --> 01:33:55,920 conversation 1726 01:34:04,820 --> 01:34:02,790 something very different about them in 1727 01:34:07,550 --> 01:34:04,830 his book talks about that yeah he does 1728 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:07,560 he does and his research is fascinating 1729 01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:10,290 with that and what I wanted to ask you 1730 01:34:15,410 --> 01:34:11,790 and I feel like I interrupted I 1731 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:15,420 apologize for that but with all of the 1732 01:34:19,790 --> 01:34:17,370 conference's that you and I do together 1733 01:34:21,290 --> 01:34:19,800 around the country and we have these you 1734 01:34:25,370 --> 01:34:21,300 know we have large amounts of people 1735 01:34:27,290 --> 01:34:25,380 around us have you ever suspected that 1736 01:34:33,070 --> 01:34:27,300 somebody that you were interacting with 1737 01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:33,080 may not be wholly human oh there was one 1738 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:36,960 experience that I had in Roswell this is 1739 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:39,449 probably about five years ago maybe 1740 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:43,890 right I was I was a member lecturing in 1741 01:34:49,610 --> 01:34:46,730 the video room there in the museum and 1742 01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:49,620 full room and do it I noticed this 1743 01:34:54,979 --> 01:34:52,800 little boy sitting in the front and I I 1744 01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:54,989 looked at them and he his hair was a 1745 01:34:59,540 --> 01:34:56,760 little different 1746 01:35:02,270 --> 01:34:59,550 he is almost you know it was it was 1747 01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:02,280 almost I thought how does that real hair 1748 01:35:08,510 --> 01:35:06,080 you know but he was sitting there and I 1749 01:35:11,209 --> 01:35:08,520 didn't know what you know if he was with 1750 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:11,219 a mother or what but I just kept like I 1751 01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:14,010 went on with my lecture and I was 1752 01:35:22,060 --> 01:35:18,080 showing of course the triangles and he 1753 01:35:25,370 --> 01:35:22,070 during the Q&A he raised his hand and he 1754 01:35:29,060 --> 01:35:25,380 asked me a question about one of the 1755 01:35:30,410 --> 01:35:29,070 triangles but the way he asked it Jimmy 1756 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:30,420 I mean he looked like he was about ten 1757 01:35:36,860 --> 01:35:33,810 years old but the way he asked the 1758 01:35:38,540 --> 01:35:36,870 question and I don't quite remember all 1759 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:38,550 of his words but he said something like 1760 01:35:47,030 --> 01:35:42,330 well according to the or have you have 1761 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:47,040 you inquired to the scientists about and 1762 01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:50,250 he's talking about the triangle and it 1763 01:35:57,050 --> 01:35:53,730 wasn't like a typical ten-year-old 1764 01:36:02,150 --> 01:35:57,060 question and other people had noticed 1765 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:02,160 them and when he walked out you know a 1766 01:36:07,250 --> 01:36:04,530 couple of women left the room after it 1767 01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:07,260 was over and he walked out and they were 1768 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:09,480 kind of following of it but like he was 1769 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:15,690 by himself and he also sat in on rendre 1770 01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:19,290 gears lecture upstairs and Ron came up 1771 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:20,520 to me later because it should have that 1772 01:36:26,810 --> 01:36:22,650 little boy in your lecture I said yeah I 1773 01:36:30,170 --> 01:36:26,820 did so you know I'm not saying I don't 1774 01:36:33,650 --> 01:36:30,180 know for sure of course but he was just 1775 01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:33,660 not like any 10 euro life ever you know 1776 01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:36,480 spoken to a tenure on a ten-year-old 1777 01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:44,730 took you off your game I mean he asked 1778 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:48,480 the question like an adult but a very 1779 01:36:53,630 --> 01:36:51,450 intelligent just very intelligent 1780 01:36:55,850 --> 01:36:53,640 question I guess I felt I think I glazed 1781 01:36:59,690 --> 01:36:55,860 over like am I gonna be able to answer 1782 01:37:01,850 --> 01:36:59,700 this question but I did and you know I I 1783 01:37:05,420 --> 01:37:01,860 don't remember cuz it was like five 1784 01:37:08,330 --> 01:37:05,430 years ago but but Ron when Ron asked me 1785 01:37:12,380 --> 01:37:08,340 if I saw him I thought oh my god there's 1786 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:12,390 something to this so that happened but 1787 01:37:20,630 --> 01:37:15,570 I've had several a couple by see 1788 01:37:23,330 --> 01:37:20,640 remember several of my clients say that 1789 01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:23,340 they feel that they talked to somebody 1790 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:26,880 that desert wasn't quite human but they 1791 01:37:30,890 --> 01:37:29,010 but they look cute in other words if you 1792 01:37:33,710 --> 01:37:30,900 walk by them you know it wasn't like you 1793 01:37:37,010 --> 01:37:33,720 were going to be startled they just look 1794 01:37:39,580 --> 01:37:37,020 like a human but they some of them say 1795 01:37:43,790 --> 01:37:39,590 they feel like they could read your mind 1796 01:37:47,180 --> 01:37:43,800 1 1 or 2 my clients drew a picture of 1797 01:37:50,900 --> 01:37:47,190 them very one described as being very 1798 01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:50,910 thin she thought he was homeless because 1799 01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:53,910 he looked very thin and as if he hadn't 1800 01:37:58,220 --> 01:37:56,130 eaten for a while but then after they 1801 01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:58,230 stopped talking it was after this film 1802 01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:02,400 premiere he got into a car you know so 1803 01:38:06,650 --> 01:38:04,110 she's aware he's not I don't think he's 1804 01:38:10,610 --> 01:38:06,660 homeless you know but so there's been 1805 01:38:13,700 --> 01:38:10,620 instances like that I write about this 1806 01:38:18,940 --> 01:38:13,710 lady in my original chosen with the 1807 01:38:22,540 --> 01:38:18,950 black cover it was it was the last 1808 01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:22,550 chapter in there I believe and 1809 01:38:30,220 --> 01:38:26,239 this was in the 60s this was after the 1810 01:38:35,649 --> 01:38:30,230 villain Betty Barney no case and this 1811 01:38:40,660 --> 01:38:35,659 woman felt that she interacted with this 1812 01:38:42,669 --> 01:38:40,670 person now there's a lot to this but to 1813 01:38:46,959 --> 01:38:42,679 try to make the you know long story 1814 01:38:50,740 --> 01:38:46,969 short she worked and lived in a mainly 1815 01:38:53,260 --> 01:38:50,750 Hispanic community this person that 1816 01:38:54,970 --> 01:38:53,270 walked in when she was having her coffee 1817 01:38:58,959 --> 01:38:54,980 in this restaurant she was taking a 1818 01:39:05,589 --> 01:38:58,969 coffee break he walks in you lie about 1819 01:39:11,319 --> 01:39:05,599 six feet tall very fair very fair hair 1820 01:39:13,780 --> 01:39:11,329 so Jimmy he would have he stood out from 1821 01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:13,790 this community and that's why she looked 1822 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:15,590 at him like gosh where did he come from 1823 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:19,010 he goes directly to her table and asked 1824 01:39:21,459 --> 01:39:20,090 may I sit here 1825 01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:21,469 and she looked around the restaurant 1826 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:23,420 like there's other tables but you know 1827 01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:25,730 she didn't say anything but she said yes 1828 01:39:32,770 --> 01:39:29,449 and she said when he sat down and looked 1829 01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:32,780 at her it startled her because it was as 1830 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:36,290 if he was looking right through her and 1831 01:39:42,129 --> 01:39:40,610 then he said to her you're thinking 1832 01:39:44,890 --> 01:39:42,139 about him aren't you 1833 01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:44,900 and that's what she thought oh my god 1834 01:39:50,319 --> 01:39:46,639 you know because she was thinking about 1835 01:39:53,649 --> 01:39:50,329 this person that she that she was 1836 01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:53,659 attracted to but she hadn't told him yet 1837 01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:56,239 so the whole you know it was just if 1838 01:40:02,640 --> 01:39:58,570 this was in the 60s I think it was about 1839 01:40:07,959 --> 01:40:02,650 63 and I had to put it in there because 1840 01:40:10,979 --> 01:40:07,969 we've been talking about hybrids he 1841 01:40:15,879 --> 01:40:10,989 could have been a very a perfected 1842 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:15,889 hybrid way back then but she said he was 1843 01:40:22,060 --> 01:40:19,130 dressed just you know it's impeccable I 1844 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:22,070 mean he was his hair everything was 1845 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:23,570 perfect about him that's what they say 1846 01:40:29,379 --> 01:40:26,170 about these people 1847 01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:29,389 what do you reminded me of go ahead oh 1848 01:40:34,029 --> 01:40:32,630 I'm sorry I was gonna say I thought you 1849 01:40:37,839 --> 01:40:34,039 paused so I was gonna 1850 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:37,849 jump in what do you do with somebody 1851 01:40:42,279 --> 01:40:40,489 that just can't be hypnotized like I 1852 01:40:45,279 --> 01:40:42,289 don't think I can be hypnotized 1853 01:40:48,129 --> 01:40:45,289 I just I I don't know but what do you do 1854 01:40:50,109 --> 01:40:48,139 when you encounter that or are you are 1855 01:40:53,619 --> 01:40:50,119 you just so good at what you do that you 1856 01:40:59,889 --> 01:40:53,629 can normally get to that point well you 1857 01:41:04,259 --> 01:40:59,899 know everyone can be hypnotized it's 1858 01:41:07,599 --> 01:41:04,269 just a matter of the person deciding 1859 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:07,609 they're just going to allow me to be 1860 01:41:16,270 --> 01:41:12,530 their facilitator but it's you know it 1861 01:41:18,969 --> 01:41:16,280 takes trust and it takes rapport and 1862 01:41:22,899 --> 01:41:18,979 that's developed over time now there's 1863 01:41:25,319 --> 01:41:22,909 been instances where the person was so 1864 01:41:29,770 --> 01:41:25,329 nervous they just couldn't relax because 1865 01:41:32,770 --> 01:41:29,780 think about what I do I mean the person 1866 01:41:34,689 --> 01:41:32,780 comes in usually people who come and see 1867 01:41:38,109 --> 01:41:34,699 me they've never been hypnotized at all 1868 01:41:39,609 --> 01:41:38,119 right and so I explained the process of 1869 01:41:41,379 --> 01:41:39,619 hypnosis that they're not going to be 1870 01:41:44,729 --> 01:41:41,389 blacked out I don't give them drugs you 1871 01:41:47,889 --> 01:41:44,739 know I'm not going to control their mind 1872 01:41:49,809 --> 01:41:47,899 but were you know they've never been 1873 01:41:51,699 --> 01:41:49,819 hypnotized so they're going to 1874 01:41:54,879 --> 01:41:51,709 experience that then we're going to be 1875 01:41:56,469 --> 01:41:54,889 going into the unknown so they're very 1876 01:42:01,029 --> 01:41:56,479 nervous about that 1877 01:42:03,309 --> 01:42:01,039 and I've had through the years every 1878 01:42:07,509 --> 01:42:03,319 once about somebody just was too nervous 1879 01:42:11,409 --> 01:42:07,519 or couldn't relax and their mind was 1880 01:42:13,809 --> 01:42:11,419 wandering which is very you know it's 1881 01:42:15,969 --> 01:42:13,819 common especially for their first time 1882 01:42:20,020 --> 01:42:15,979 the first session is usually the most 1883 01:42:21,219 --> 01:42:20,030 difficult I've had clients that are you 1884 01:42:23,559 --> 01:42:21,229 know from all walks of life 1885 01:42:27,389 --> 01:42:23,569 I mean I've had I just one gentleman who 1886 01:42:31,569 --> 01:42:27,399 was you know used to being in control 1887 01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:31,579 president of his own company just you 1888 01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:35,689 know had he just you know had what over 1889 01:42:40,689 --> 01:42:38,510 a hundred employees and so he comes to 1890 01:42:43,629 --> 01:42:40,699 me and you know he feels like oh my god 1891 01:42:46,929 --> 01:42:43,639 I have to relinquish control it took 1892 01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:46,939 about three or so sessions but we 1893 01:42:52,890 --> 01:42:48,010 finally 1894 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:52,900 started making progress and it's you 1895 01:42:59,940 --> 01:42:55,810 know it it takes sometimes it takes time 1896 01:43:04,260 --> 01:42:59,950 but he was willing to come back and see 1897 01:43:09,660 --> 01:43:04,270 me and because he wanted to know what 1898 01:43:12,810 --> 01:43:09,670 happened to him and yeah I gave him 1899 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:12,820 credit for coming back but he really did 1900 01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:15,610 then he degree you realize I am going to 1901 01:43:20,370 --> 01:43:18,400 be safe in her hands you know I she's 1902 01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:20,380 got to bring me back and even when 1903 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:23,440 people go through reliving their 1904 01:43:28,980 --> 01:43:26,170 experiences I use different techniques 1905 01:43:31,740 --> 01:43:28,990 so they don't have to experience the 1906 01:43:34,710 --> 01:43:31,750 pain or the fear but the important thing 1907 01:43:37,950 --> 01:43:34,720 is for them to verbalize everything 1908 01:43:39,930 --> 01:43:37,960 that's coming through and that's what 1909 01:43:43,020 --> 01:43:39,940 what helps with the healing is that 1910 01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:43,030 they're no longer holding all of this in 1911 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:46,450 which makes somebody ill which causes 1912 01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:48,690 the PTSD symptoms 1913 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:51,370 you know sleepless nights there they're 1914 01:43:58,500 --> 01:43:54,610 hyper vigilant this is all they can 1915 01:44:04,920 --> 01:43:58,510 think about you know something will will 1916 01:44:09,300 --> 01:44:04,930 trigger an experience so the process of 1917 01:44:13,860 --> 01:44:09,310 the regressions does promote the healing 1918 01:44:17,670 --> 01:44:13,870 and incorporating this experience in 1919 01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:17,680 their lives because I'm always asked you 1920 01:44:24,060 --> 01:44:20,530 know Yvonne can you make this stop well 1921 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:24,070 I wish I could I don't have that control 1922 01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:28,570 that ability to do that but I can help 1923 01:44:33,090 --> 01:44:30,700 them in a system and incorporating the 1924 01:44:36,570 --> 01:44:33,100 experience in their lives so that they 1925 01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:36,580 can live a productive life and I have 1926 01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:38,260 people coming back to me 1927 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:41,380 you know after 20-some odd years saying 1928 01:44:47,190 --> 01:44:44,370 they were very grateful you know a 1929 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:47,200 couple of them let's you know always 1930 01:44:52,230 --> 01:44:48,970 worries me it said I would have 1931 01:44:55,950 --> 01:44:52,240 committed suicide if I hadn't you know 1932 01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:55,960 done the regressions because they were 1933 01:45:01,770 --> 01:44:58,090 so traumatized but they didn't know why 1934 01:45:05,939 --> 01:45:01,780 so it's you know it's a 1935 01:45:10,410 --> 01:45:05,949 says Jimmy I you know in working with 1936 01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,420 somebody I can't yet can eventually have 1937 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:13,119 them relax and have them let go and have 1938 01:45:21,779 --> 01:45:16,090 them just listen to my voice 1939 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:21,789 have you found do do they have those 1940 01:45:29,490 --> 01:45:23,770 that have made contact or maybe have 1941 01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:29,500 gone through an abduction experience do 1942 01:45:35,459 --> 01:45:31,960 they do you find that that they have an 1943 01:45:38,189 --> 01:45:35,469 unusual amount of sightings and and see 1944 01:45:40,770 --> 01:45:38,199 craft and that this is something that is 1945 01:45:45,810 --> 01:45:40,780 a lifelong experience and it's just not 1946 01:45:51,180 --> 01:45:45,820 one event oh yes definitely it's it's 1947 01:45:57,089 --> 01:45:51,190 usually not one event and the people 1948 01:46:01,080 --> 01:45:57,099 who've had experiences have seen crap 1949 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:01,090 and I mean very recently I I have zero 1950 01:46:05,399 --> 01:46:03,610 members and other clients you know will 1951 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:05,409 text me and say oh my god I just saw 1952 01:46:13,620 --> 01:46:10,570 something they they tend to have the 1953 01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:13,630 sightings it's really it's interesting 1954 01:46:20,549 --> 01:46:17,679 that the beans and the craft they will 1955 01:46:23,580 --> 01:46:20,559 appear to people who they want them to 1956 01:46:25,319 --> 01:46:23,590 see them I have couples where one person 1957 01:46:30,149 --> 01:46:25,329 sees the craft and the other person 1958 01:46:32,069 --> 01:46:30,159 doesn't it happens in families as well 1959 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:32,079 where maybe one or two people will see 1960 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:35,770 and the others don't and it's just it's 1961 01:46:45,299 --> 01:46:39,610 a because there they are now in their 1962 01:46:50,419 --> 01:46:45,309 program and they do have these sightings 1963 01:46:54,540 --> 01:46:50,429 and high strangeness and synchronicities 1964 01:46:56,580 --> 01:46:54,550 throughout their life what and what 1965 01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:56,590 about the situation where we hear about 1966 01:47:03,830 --> 01:47:00,400 this so often where somebody has a 1967 01:47:08,129 --> 01:47:03,840 sighting and they think that that is it 1968 01:47:10,740 --> 01:47:08,139 right and then later they find out that 1969 01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:10,750 it wasn't you know the sighting was just 1970 01:47:17,250 --> 01:47:14,320 the beginning of the event or the end 1971 01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:17,260 the event right right what do we do with 1972 01:47:21,780 --> 01:47:19,360 that in the other see this is what's 1973 01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:21,790 frightening with me is I've had a lot of 1974 01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:25,840 sightings right I have Yvonne but I 1975 01:47:33,060 --> 01:47:29,110 don't want to know I don't want to know 1976 01:47:37,379 --> 01:47:33,070 I don't I'm cool with what I have seen 1977 01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:37,389 if something else went on yeah I I just 1978 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:39,329 I don't want to know 1979 01:47:45,419 --> 01:47:42,130 well that's the thing Jimmy and you know 1980 01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:45,429 you're I kill the person if your life is 1981 01:47:50,609 --> 01:47:48,880 going fine you're working you have a 1982 01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:50,619 productive life you have your family 1983 01:47:56,939 --> 01:47:53,920 your loved ones you know you're able to 1984 01:48:00,780 --> 01:47:56,949 sleep and you socialize then leave it 1985 01:48:04,339 --> 01:48:00,790 alone it's the people who come to me are 1986 01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:04,349 the ones that they're not sleeping 1987 01:48:10,859 --> 01:48:08,110 they're having nightmares they're 1988 01:48:13,220 --> 01:48:10,869 they're so distracted by this that 1989 01:48:15,089 --> 01:48:13,230 they're unable to concentrate at work 1990 01:48:17,819 --> 01:48:15,099 you know and of course that's going to 1991 01:48:20,669 --> 01:48:17,829 interfere with their work and in and so 1992 01:48:24,569 --> 01:48:20,679 forth in their family life so those are 1993 01:48:27,899 --> 01:48:24,579 the people who come to me and and seek 1994 01:48:30,060 --> 01:48:27,909 help the ones that say oh you know I'm 1995 01:48:33,629 --> 01:48:30,070 fine but I kind of want to know it might 1996 01:48:34,069 --> 01:48:33,639 be fun I tell them if you're fine right 1997 01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:34,079 now 1998 01:48:40,319 --> 01:48:37,360 you said don't don't open that box 1999 01:48:42,569 --> 01:48:40,329 you know once she won't see it they tell 2000 01:48:44,129 --> 01:48:42,579 what's the toothpaste is squeezed out of 2001 01:48:47,700 --> 01:48:44,139 the tube you can't put it back right 2002 01:48:51,149 --> 01:48:47,710 right I said so just you know leave it 2003 01:48:55,530 --> 01:48:51,159 alone you know you I don't I don't do 2004 01:48:57,569 --> 01:48:55,540 this for fun people do this they want 2005 01:48:59,459 --> 01:48:57,579 they want to find out what happened 2006 01:49:01,729 --> 01:48:59,469 because they want to heal and they want 2007 01:49:05,010 --> 01:49:01,739 to help their children so Jimmy don't 2008 01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:05,020 worry about if you that you don't want 2009 01:49:12,270 --> 01:49:09,340 to know I mean it's not necessary for 2010 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:12,280 you you're leading a productive life of 2011 01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:14,770 you've had many sightings of probably 2012 01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:16,210 while you're doing your radio show 2013 01:49:22,830 --> 01:49:19,150 well you know in the audience every time 2014 01:49:24,780 --> 01:49:22,840 I have a guest on like you and and the 2015 01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:24,790 audience is listening they all know my 2016 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:26,960 experiences right thank you 2017 01:49:32,380 --> 01:49:29,210 very public about them over the years 2018 01:49:35,290 --> 01:49:32,390 and Jimmy here you go here's your chance 2019 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:35,300 do it on the air Jimmy do it on the air 2020 01:49:43,630 --> 01:49:40,010 what could go wrong right so but and I 2021 01:49:46,780 --> 01:49:43,640 usually address that but I don't I'm 2022 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:46,790 just comfortable with that and and I 2023 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:48,650 know that there's the possibility of 2024 01:49:53,950 --> 01:49:50,930 something else out there but that's not 2025 01:49:58,690 --> 01:49:53,960 for me but I know and you're absolutely 2026 01:50:01,990 --> 01:49:58,700 right most need those answers most do 2027 01:50:04,420 --> 01:50:02,000 and and they need to go and erase that 2028 01:50:08,860 --> 01:50:04,430 there have been a couple of instances in 2029 01:50:10,810 --> 01:50:08,870 my life where some traumatic things were 2030 01:50:14,170 --> 01:50:10,820 cleared up in the past you know from the 2031 01:50:19,270 --> 01:50:14,180 past and the second that that is done 2032 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:19,280 it's amazing how clean your your brain 2033 01:50:24,940 --> 01:50:23,210 starts to work you know and yeah it's 2034 01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:24,950 it's something that people need to go 2035 01:50:28,990 --> 01:50:26,960 through and I'm not going to go through 2036 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:29,000 that stuff on the air with me personally 2037 01:50:33,850 --> 01:50:31,610 that I've gone through but I know that 2038 01:50:35,740 --> 01:50:33,860 once you erase some of these things from 2039 01:50:38,260 --> 01:50:35,750 the past and you take care of the dirty 2040 01:50:41,410 --> 01:50:38,270 laundry and and you get done with that 2041 01:50:43,390 --> 01:50:41,420 you can run clean and it's an amazing 2042 01:50:45,250 --> 01:50:43,400 thing so if some people just have to do 2043 01:50:49,630 --> 01:50:45,260 it and their life will change for the 2044 01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:49,640 better and they in it does and I'm so 2045 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:51,710 grateful when I hear back from my 2046 01:50:58,930 --> 01:50:56,210 clients and I get feedback and it just 2047 01:51:02,320 --> 01:50:58,940 makes me feel that okay I'm on the right 2048 01:51:07,090 --> 01:51:02,330 path I'm doing what I'm supposed to do 2049 01:51:10,150 --> 01:51:07,100 because I can help these people so I'm 2050 01:51:11,740 --> 01:51:10,160 very I'm grateful to my clients in my 2051 01:51:14,830 --> 01:51:11,750 support group you know because they 2052 01:51:17,260 --> 01:51:14,840 support me but I would say gybing that 2053 01:51:19,630 --> 01:51:17,270 you know just don't worry about it leave 2054 01:51:21,729 --> 01:51:19,640 it alone you don't need to know and you 2055 01:51:24,610 --> 01:51:21,739 know enjoy your sightings take pictures 2056 01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:24,620 share it but you know you don't you 2057 01:51:29,170 --> 01:51:26,110 don't need to go through the process 2058 01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:29,180 because it is a process it doesn't just 2059 01:51:34,780 --> 01:51:31,250 you can't just do one or two sessions 2060 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:34,790 you know it is a process to bring up 2061 01:51:40,259 --> 01:51:36,770 these memories now what about the 2062 01:51:44,310 --> 01:51:40,269 opposite have you gone through a sash 2063 01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:44,320 and then found out maybe somebody 2064 01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:46,210 thought it was something else you know a 2065 01:51:53,939 --> 01:51:50,170 true PTSD situation that it's unrelated 2066 01:51:58,319 --> 01:51:53,949 to ET or an alien encounter and then 2067 01:52:01,290 --> 01:51:58,329 that comes out how do you deal with that 2068 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:01,300 with a client oh also well you know do 2069 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:03,730 you videotape the videotape and do you 2070 01:52:12,290 --> 01:52:06,010 have somebody else in the room you know 2071 01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:12,300 as a witness to this many times I always 2072 01:52:18,779 --> 01:52:15,460 tape it audiotape it with my digital 2073 01:52:21,359 --> 01:52:18,789 recorder right several times a client 2074 01:52:23,370 --> 01:52:21,369 will bring in a video camera they'll 2075 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:23,380 have somebody operated or they just set 2076 01:52:28,649 --> 01:52:27,130 it and turn it on they will have someone 2077 01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:28,659 come with and they always ask me is it 2078 01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:31,360 okay if my wife or husband come I tell 2079 01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:33,820 them it's up to you right I don't always 2080 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:36,010 have a witness in there 2081 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:37,690 because it's up to the client if the 2082 01:52:42,509 --> 01:52:39,610 clients not comfortable having someone 2083 01:52:48,750 --> 01:52:42,519 else there because they are you know 2084 01:52:51,989 --> 01:52:48,760 telling me you know very intimate things 2085 01:52:55,890 --> 01:52:51,999 that happen to them in the in the past 2086 01:52:59,100 --> 01:52:55,900 and and and maybe most recently that 2087 01:53:02,040 --> 01:52:59,110 they and usually I'm the first person 2088 01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:02,050 they have talked to about this right so 2089 01:53:06,359 --> 01:53:04,719 they have to warm up to talking to other 2090 01:53:08,549 --> 01:53:06,369 people but I've had people bring in 2091 01:53:12,209 --> 01:53:08,559 their significant others or or a sibling 2092 01:53:14,489 --> 01:53:12,219 you know into the sessions but I record 2093 01:53:16,799 --> 01:53:14,499 them and if they if people want to have 2094 01:53:18,989 --> 01:53:16,809 a copy they don't I'll send them a copy 2095 01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,999 and sometimes people don't want to 2096 01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:20,320 listen to it they're not ready to listen 2097 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:25,510 to it which I understand sure but oh and 2098 01:53:30,779 --> 01:53:27,010 you had to ask me the other question 2099 01:53:34,189 --> 01:53:30,789 about if something else came through you 2100 01:53:37,319 --> 01:53:34,199 know in my work as a hypnotherapist I'm 2101 01:53:41,580 --> 01:53:37,329 very fortunate that I don't have to 2102 01:53:43,879 --> 01:53:41,590 start from square one many people who 2103 01:53:46,220 --> 01:53:43,889 come to me are referrals from 2104 01:53:49,109 --> 01:53:46,230 psychiatrists or so are there 2105 01:53:51,239 --> 01:53:49,119 psychologists they have gone through the 2106 01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:51,249 traditional therapy if they were abused 2107 01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:53,890 as children they have covered that 2108 01:54:00,450 --> 01:53:56,650 or they have you know maybe gone through 2109 01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:00,460 the PTSD would you know coming back to 2110 01:54:06,890 --> 01:54:03,850 the military so would make when they 2111 01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:06,900 come to me it's because their therapist 2112 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:11,680 cannot seem to tap into this area that 2113 01:54:20,450 --> 01:54:15,010 is still haunting them that is still 2114 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:20,460 causing dreams vivid dreams or 2115 01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:24,850 reoccurring dreams so I will get you 2116 01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:27,010 don't contacted by the therapist and say 2117 01:54:32,580 --> 01:54:30,370 I think this is your area you mentioned 2118 01:54:35,310 --> 01:54:32,590 something about he had a sighting or 2119 01:54:37,890 --> 01:54:35,320 something and you know and so they so I 2120 01:54:39,660 --> 01:54:37,900 get referred so they have already gone 2121 01:54:42,780 --> 01:54:39,670 through everything else you know it's 2122 01:54:46,770 --> 01:54:42,790 like they've been peeling the layers of 2123 01:54:48,810 --> 01:54:46,780 the onion now every once while through 2124 01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:48,820 the years I've had people where they've 2125 01:54:55,260 --> 01:54:53,860 not gone to a therapist that they that 2126 01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:55,270 they had this high strain just 2127 01:55:01,290 --> 01:54:57,730 throughout their life but other things 2128 01:55:02,820 --> 01:55:01,300 did come up with this one lady she broke 2129 01:55:05,310 --> 01:55:02,830 up with her boyfriend it was still very 2130 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:05,320 painful for her or she didn't break up 2131 01:55:13,020 --> 01:55:08,410 he did it was still very painful for her 2132 01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:13,030 and so I I told her before we can get to 2133 01:55:20,250 --> 01:55:16,510 the possible alien stuff we've got to 2134 01:55:24,060 --> 01:55:20,260 we've got to address what you are 2135 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:24,070 dealing with now and I worked very deep 2136 01:55:30,170 --> 01:55:26,170 with her you know it was very painful 2137 01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:30,180 but all of that emotion came through and 2138 01:55:37,790 --> 01:55:34,450 she was able to vent it and then we were 2139 01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:37,800 able to get through and she was in fact 2140 01:55:43,980 --> 01:55:41,440 abducted as a child and you know 2141 01:55:45,540 --> 01:55:43,990 throughout her life so it just makes it 2142 01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:45,550 just makes my work a little bit harder 2143 01:55:50,190 --> 01:55:48,130 because then I have to start you know 2144 01:55:52,260 --> 01:55:50,200 that I said okay we'll peel this layer 2145 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:52,270 and they will go on to the next but 2146 01:56:00,510 --> 01:55:55,450 that's been you know not often but it 2147 01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:00,520 has happened and again as you mentioned 2148 01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:03,520 you know when you bring up we can bring 2149 01:56:11,250 --> 01:56:07,630 up all the you know the negative 2150 01:56:14,820 --> 01:56:11,260 that have been holding someone back and 2151 01:56:18,180 --> 01:56:14,830 and just releasing it and venting it it 2152 01:56:21,450 --> 01:56:18,190 just clears a person you know where they 2153 01:56:22,979 --> 01:56:21,460 can they can move forward and and so 2154 01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:22,989 there's this the progression that does 2155 01:56:27,439 --> 01:56:24,610 the same thing where you know they're 2156 01:56:29,939 --> 01:56:27,449 releasing this bringing up these 2157 01:56:31,860 --> 01:56:29,949 memories of these experiences which are 2158 01:56:33,060 --> 01:56:31,870 frightening off often they're 2159 01:56:36,479 --> 01:56:33,070 frightening and beginning they're 2160 01:56:40,590 --> 01:56:36,489 frightening but intellectually they'll 2161 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:40,600 say okay I'm having this experience but 2162 01:56:47,820 --> 01:56:43,690 I'm brought back I'm still alive I'm 2163 01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:47,830 still loved by my family you know now I 2164 01:56:52,410 --> 01:56:50,110 could go to a support group you know 2165 01:56:54,689 --> 01:56:52,420 that it's just all included within the 2166 01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:54,699 healing it's gotta be very rewarding 2167 01:56:58,860 --> 01:56:57,520 when it happens like that too as well I 2168 01:56:59,520 --> 01:56:58,870 mean that's just got to make you feel 2169 01:57:01,709 --> 01:56:59,530 great 2170 01:57:03,780 --> 01:57:01,719 and because you can see the Chile yeah 2171 01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:03,790 I'm sure the change is immediate let's 2172 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:05,679 take a break right here a guest tonight 2173 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:08,290 Yvonne Smith and when I come back I've 2174 01:57:12,689 --> 01:57:10,210 got to talk about other things won't 2175 01:57:15,810 --> 01:57:12,699 talk about PTSD what about my lab or 2176 01:57:17,490 --> 01:57:15,820 other things that could surface in a 2177 01:57:19,169 --> 01:57:17,500 regression therapy our guest tonight 2178 01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:19,179 Yvonne Smith I'm used to be Church we'll 2179 01:57:27,549 --> 01:57:20,050 be right back 2180 01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:30,830 this is kera digital broadcasting 2181 01:57:35,890 --> 01:57:31,650 station 2182 01:57:38,959 --> 01:57:35,900 Salt Lake 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02:01:05,370 couldn't stay sane without poor mr. 2257 02:01:14,889 --> 02:01:09,570 brush I fade to black because you never 2258 02:01:19,709 --> 02:01:17,229 this is fade to black with Jimmy Church 2259 02:01:24,540 --> 02:01:19,719 on the game changer radio network and 2260 02:01:37,149 --> 02:01:24,550 kgr a the global radio alliance 2261 02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:37,159 [Music] 2262 02:01:42,700 --> 02:01:39,510 welcome back beta-blocker mail Jimmy 2263 02:01:47,439 --> 02:01:42,710 Church my guest tonight Yvonne Smith and 2264 02:01:50,419 --> 02:01:47,449 this show tonight is for lynn lewis and 2265 02:01:53,950 --> 02:01:50,429 our fader mom who passed away this past 2266 02:01:56,629 --> 02:01:53,960 sunday and rust in peace lynn and our 2267 02:01:58,549 --> 02:01:56,639 thoughts are with you right now now come 2268 02:01:59,120 --> 02:01:58,559 down here knock something over in the 2269 02:02:01,879 --> 02:01:59,130 bunker 2270 02:02:05,330 --> 02:02:01,889 i need you to do something for me Yvonne 2271 02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:05,340 yeah one of you know this show is has 2272 02:02:11,089 --> 02:02:08,610 built the most amazing audience and it's 2273 02:02:14,299 --> 02:02:11,099 gotten so big and so fun and that part 2274 02:02:16,790 --> 02:02:14,309 of it is just amazing but Lynn Lewis who 2275 02:02:19,819 --> 02:02:16,800 from Australia who was with us from the 2276 02:02:22,339 --> 02:02:19,829 very very beginning was here with us 2277 02:02:25,759 --> 02:02:22,349 every single night calling us and 2278 02:02:36,259 --> 02:02:25,769 hanging out and dang it she passed away 2279 02:02:39,709 --> 02:02:36,269 on Sunday and no no our family our fader 2280 02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:39,719 nods right the shoot issue 2281 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:42,480 she was the den mother man she just she 2282 02:02:47,330 --> 02:02:44,610 kept this audience online over the years 2283 02:02:55,339 --> 02:02:47,340 and and she asked a stowaway on Sunday 2284 02:02:58,310 --> 02:02:55,349 so I'm watching now it was a surprise it 2285 02:03:02,299 --> 02:02:58,320 was a surprise and it caught us 2286 02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:02,309 completely off-guard we just yeah it's 2287 02:03:06,410 --> 02:03:04,320 it's a drag but like I said I want 2288 02:03:08,060 --> 02:03:06,420 something to knock over all the video 2289 02:03:10,850 --> 02:03:08,070 cameras are running here in the studio 2290 02:03:13,700 --> 02:03:10,860 right for for our live video feed so 2291 02:03:19,580 --> 02:03:13,710 maybe we'll see something live happen 2292 02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:19,590 we'll be cool all of the all of the 2293 02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:22,320 audiences of posting pictures and 2294 02:03:28,279 --> 02:03:25,050 Twitter of a shot glasses and you just 2295 02:03:31,899 --> 02:03:28,289 gotta love it man it's just so cool so I 2296 02:03:34,970 --> 02:03:31,909 wanted to ask you when it comes to 2297 02:03:40,399 --> 02:03:34,980 there's another part of this as evil as 2298 02:03:41,260 --> 02:03:40,409 it sounds that I think that al are a lot 2299 02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:41,270 of not 2300 02:03:47,710 --> 02:03:44,690 a large part but some abductions it 2301 02:03:49,930 --> 02:03:47,720 could be you know dark maybe our own 2302 02:03:51,730 --> 02:03:49,940 government or my labs and and people 2303 02:03:54,700 --> 02:03:51,740 think that these are real experiences 2304 02:03:58,290 --> 02:03:54,710 and and they find out later that it 2305 02:04:01,180 --> 02:03:58,300 wasn't it was something that was staged 2306 02:04:05,490 --> 02:04:01,190 what's your experience with that have 2307 02:04:10,660 --> 02:04:05,500 you uncovered anything you know dark 2308 02:04:13,900 --> 02:04:10,670 well I I do not I wouldn't be surprised 2309 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:13,910 if a faction of our government or a 2310 02:04:22,180 --> 02:04:18,890 faction of the military very interested 2311 02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:22,190 in what the exterior of duct these 2312 02:04:29,470 --> 02:04:27,170 experiencers are told or are shown when 2313 02:04:33,630 --> 02:04:29,480 they are taken and then this is life 2314 02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:33,640 long for them over the years I've had 2315 02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:38,330 people described themselves in the 2316 02:04:45,250 --> 02:04:42,050 examination room and they'll describe a 2317 02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:45,260 human being in there and Blundell 2318 02:04:52,990 --> 02:04:48,410 they'll say it looks like he's wearing a 2319 02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:53,000 lab coat and he has a you know he's 2320 02:05:00,630 --> 02:04:58,010 writing on a pad or clipboard now you 2321 02:05:04,930 --> 02:05:00,640 know this is very tricky I know that 2322 02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:04,940 people have described being taken by 2323 02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:09,650 that faction of the military I know my 2324 02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:12,050 friend and colleague Melinda Leslie has 2325 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:14,210 been doing research about it for many 2326 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:16,970 years and she's had her own experiences 2327 02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:24,370 but in this work I have to be careful 2328 02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,530 not to interpret right away I mean 2329 02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:29,360 they'll say that the lab code they'll 2330 02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:31,490 also say I've had descriptions of 2331 02:05:36,730 --> 02:05:34,400 military uniform I've had it 2332 02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:36,740 descriptions of being feeling like 2333 02:05:42,010 --> 02:05:40,250 they're underground in just a regular 2334 02:05:46,210 --> 02:05:42,020 building because they're describing 2335 02:05:49,110 --> 02:05:46,220 corners when they're in a ship there are 2336 02:05:51,610 --> 02:05:49,120 no corners everything is usually around 2337 02:05:53,140 --> 02:05:51,620 because I would deliberately ask them 2338 02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:53,150 what's in the corner what are in the 2339 02:05:57,460 --> 02:05:54,770 corners of the room 2340 02:06:00,280 --> 02:05:57,470 and a look they look around and they're 2341 02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:00,290 you know they're saying there's no 2342 02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:03,530 corners you know I asked lean questions 2343 02:06:09,130 --> 02:06:06,650 being every once in a while but in this 2344 02:06:13,170 --> 02:06:09,140 work you have to be careful with screen 2345 02:06:18,010 --> 02:06:13,180 memory because the alien beings can 2346 02:06:22,540 --> 02:06:18,020 place a picture or vision in someone's 2347 02:06:24,310 --> 02:06:22,550 memory to make them think this is what 2348 02:06:28,150 --> 02:06:24,320 they're seeing rather than what's 2349 02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:28,160 actually happening they will see they 2350 02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:31,040 will see dead relatives you know their 2351 02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:34,250 dead mother and they realize later OS 2352 02:06:38,410 --> 02:06:36,290 that's not my mother and then they get 2353 02:06:40,540 --> 02:06:38,420 really angry because they feel that 2354 02:06:44,050 --> 02:06:40,550 they're just being you know they're 2355 02:06:46,030 --> 02:06:44,060 being toyed with that way I one of my 2356 02:06:53,110 --> 02:06:46,040 clients described the Terr but I can't 2357 02:06:58,300 --> 02:06:53,120 say it on the air but so I have had 2358 02:07:00,220 --> 02:06:58,310 cases of people describing those things 2359 02:07:04,350 --> 02:07:00,230 being taken under gray feel like they're 2360 02:07:10,290 --> 02:07:04,360 being taken underground they see humans 2361 02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:10,300 with uniforms or a doctor's lab coat and 2362 02:07:15,850 --> 02:07:13,630 they're very very well could be the 2363 02:07:18,820 --> 02:07:15,860 connection there with our own government 2364 02:07:21,190 --> 02:07:18,830 which I can't even excuse because of 2365 02:07:23,110 --> 02:07:21,200 alien beings okay they're you know 2366 02:07:25,060 --> 02:07:23,120 they're from somewhere else and they 2367 02:07:27,670 --> 02:07:25,070 have an agenda okay we're still trying 2368 02:07:31,510 --> 02:07:27,680 to find out what's going on but our own 2369 02:07:33,970 --> 02:07:31,520 government who lies to us anyway and the 2370 02:07:36,700 --> 02:07:33,980 military doing something like this you 2371 02:07:40,650 --> 02:07:36,710 know and threatening people I mean to me 2372 02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:40,660 that's not acceptable have you logged 2373 02:07:47,290 --> 02:07:44,570 different types of species and beings as 2374 02:07:51,690 --> 02:07:47,300 well and I'm sure that list might be you 2375 02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:51,700 know starting to get kind of long the 2376 02:08:00,190 --> 02:07:55,520 the most common that are described of 2377 02:08:05,770 --> 02:08:00,200 course are the the small you know 2378 02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:05,780 bald-headed large eyes very robotics are 2379 02:08:08,470 --> 02:08:07,730 the ones that take a person out of their 2380 02:08:11,980 --> 02:08:08,480 normal 2381 02:08:15,190 --> 02:08:11,990 and take them escort them onto the ship 2382 02:08:18,490 --> 02:08:15,200 then once they're on board they there be 2383 02:08:20,740 --> 02:08:18,500 several different types working together 2384 02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:20,750 and there definitely is a chain of 2385 02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:24,770 command on the ship they will describe a 2386 02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:27,920 taller when we call them Grey's nowadays 2387 02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:30,770 a taller taller grey beings that 2388 02:08:36,580 --> 02:08:34,730 sometimes will have a uniform they're 2389 02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:36,590 taller but they seem to be more in 2390 02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:38,480 charge with they're in charge of the 2391 02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:43,970 smaller ones and then the the praying 2392 02:08:51,490 --> 02:08:47,840 mantis is described coming in once the 2393 02:08:56,220 --> 02:08:51,500 person is situated on the table he seems 2394 02:09:00,670 --> 02:08:56,230 to be in charge he's very tall and he 2395 02:09:04,750 --> 02:09:00,680 looks sometimes just stand at the side 2396 02:09:09,490 --> 02:09:04,760 and maybe give orders or watch you know 2397 02:09:12,340 --> 02:09:09,500 observe what's going on there's the 2398 02:09:14,980 --> 02:09:12,350 light beams that people describe their 2399 02:09:19,150 --> 02:09:14,990 they look that they're illuminated with 2400 02:09:23,620 --> 02:09:19,160 him within themselves of course they've 2401 02:09:28,930 --> 02:09:23,630 seen the hybrids are very human beings 2402 02:09:32,710 --> 02:09:28,940 on board every once a while they will 2403 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:32,720 describe a reptilian but you know if I 2404 02:09:39,310 --> 02:09:35,810 haven't come across the reptilians as 2405 02:09:42,370 --> 02:09:39,320 often as the other alien beings that 2406 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:42,380 I've been describing but they aren't 2407 02:09:54,460 --> 02:09:47,570 there right right have you seen the TV 2408 02:09:57,550 --> 02:09:54,470 show people of Earth Jimmy I cannot get 2409 02:10:01,800 --> 02:09:57,560 myself to watch that show Oh everybody 2410 02:10:04,540 --> 02:10:01,810 says it's hilarious and you know I just 2411 02:10:08,170 --> 02:10:04,550 it's probably hilarious it's probably 2412 02:10:10,450 --> 02:10:08,180 good but I just can't I feel like you 2413 02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:10,460 know it's probably a good show 2414 02:10:17,490 --> 02:10:15,050 it is based on a support group and they 2415 02:10:19,540 --> 02:10:17,500 have a therapist from what I understand 2416 02:10:21,790 --> 02:10:19,550 conducting the support group means yeah 2417 02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:21,800 where were they at that idea 2418 02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:24,410 that's why I'm asking I thought you were 2419 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:26,330 a consultant I thought you were a 2420 02:10:34,180 --> 02:10:30,170 consultant and that's you know it nobody 2421 02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:34,190 came to talk to me and I the people who 2422 02:10:38,590 --> 02:10:36,320 should be making the money from 2423 02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:38,600 something like this right should be the 2424 02:10:44,229 --> 02:10:41,840 experience right not offense actors 2425 02:10:47,530 --> 02:10:44,239 right right you know right right right 2426 02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:47,540 but what's really funny to me is that 2427 02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:51,050 the experiencers love the show they love 2428 02:10:56,770 --> 02:10:51,410 it 2429 02:11:00,190 --> 02:10:56,780 god you know I I'm insulted 2430 02:11:01,959 --> 02:11:00,200 I'm the one that I resisted I haven't 2431 02:11:04,930 --> 02:11:01,969 been able to oh you know what 2432 02:11:07,300 --> 02:11:04,940 okay I guarantee you you just go and 2433 02:11:10,180 --> 02:11:07,310 binge it Yvonne just go and binge it the 2434 02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:10,190 two seasons just get it out of the way 2435 02:11:15,340 --> 02:11:12,890 get it out the way the reason the reason 2436 02:11:17,260 --> 02:11:15,350 why and this is what I love about the 2437 02:11:19,930 --> 02:11:17,270 show first off if you can't laugh at 2438 02:11:23,729 --> 02:11:19,940 yourself right okay so there there's 2439 02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:23,739 that element of it but the level of 2440 02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:27,170 research and the way that they deal with 2441 02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:29,570 it even though it's a comedy 2442 02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:32,960 it is spot on the money whoever I'm 2443 02:11:38,229 --> 02:11:34,850 telling you right now one of the cero 2444 02:11:40,570 --> 02:11:38,239 group members is a writer for this show 2445 02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:40,580 and you don't even know it because it is 2446 02:11:45,130 --> 02:11:43,130 so perfect they go to a UFO conference 2447 02:11:47,410 --> 02:11:45,140 right the good of this conference it'll 2448 02:11:48,970 --> 02:11:47,420 go through and they're visiting 2449 02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:48,980 different tables right and they're just 2450 02:11:54,130 --> 02:11:52,400 going through active it and it's the 2451 02:11:55,660 --> 02:11:54,140 police right undercover whatever and 2452 02:11:57,610 --> 02:11:55,670 then so the you know they're doing this 2453 02:11:59,290 --> 02:11:57,620 thing at this UFO conference and I swear 2454 02:12:00,400 --> 02:11:59,300 it's every conference then too and I 2455 02:12:05,530 --> 02:12:00,410 have ever attended 2456 02:12:07,930 --> 02:12:05,540 and it is so funny and but again back to 2457 02:12:11,080 --> 02:12:07,940 my point everything that you're talking 2458 02:12:12,910 --> 02:12:11,090 about here now all the things that I do 2459 02:12:15,190 --> 02:12:12,920 on this show and the end and your 2460 02:12:17,500 --> 02:12:15,200 friends and and and colleagues and so 2461 02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:17,510 forth the way that it's presented in 2462 02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:22,010 this show allows us to go in for when I 2463 02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,570 say us the vast audience out there that 2464 02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:28,400 knows nothing about the abduction 2465 02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:30,770 phenomenon right that knows nothing what 2466 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:33,410 people are going through an experiencer 2467 02:12:36,260 --> 02:12:34,170 and have to 2468 02:12:38,450 --> 02:12:36,270 to a group in a support group and talk 2469 02:12:40,790 --> 02:12:38,460 through this and get through this that 2470 02:12:45,170 --> 02:12:40,800 they that's what I appreciate about the 2471 02:12:47,900 --> 02:12:45,180 show and they are able to watch this 2472 02:12:50,570 --> 02:12:47,910 laugh about it okay great it's a comedy 2473 02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:50,580 it's a funny show but but get exposed to 2474 02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:53,130 the phenomenon and that's the part that 2475 02:12:57,290 --> 02:12:55,050 I really really enjoy about the show 2476 02:12:58,760 --> 02:12:57,300 because think about the millions of 2477 02:13:01,190 --> 02:12:58,770 people that have never heard of the 2478 02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:01,200 abduction phenomenon now they have 2479 02:13:05,420 --> 02:13:03,360 something they could actually watch this 2480 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:05,430 show and be able to hang in a 2481 02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:10,290 conversation with you right and that's a 2482 02:13:15,230 --> 02:13:12,480 good way to look at it if if it does 2483 02:13:18,260 --> 02:13:15,240 bring attention to the general public 2484 02:13:20,330 --> 02:13:18,270 you know not in a negative way or in a 2485 02:13:24,620 --> 02:13:20,340 way that you know it's going to cause 2486 02:13:25,970 --> 02:13:24,630 more ridicule but where they'll someone 2487 02:13:27,650 --> 02:13:25,980 will come up to me and say gosh does 2488 02:13:32,030 --> 02:13:27,660 that really happen I just solved the 2489 02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:32,040 show okay I will engage in conversation 2490 02:13:38,660 --> 02:13:35,610 you know but that's positive I have not 2491 02:13:41,150 --> 02:13:38,670 in your right I have not talked to any 2492 02:13:44,690 --> 02:13:41,160 friend of mine or research or author 2493 02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:44,700 about that show that has had anything 2494 02:13:55,220 --> 02:13:47,250 negative to say they're like man that is 2495 02:13:58,700 --> 02:13:55,230 us watch it but get a good laugh and you 2496 02:14:00,920 --> 02:13:58,710 know like laugh at myself but you know 2497 02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:00,930 you you know you're in this show by the 2498 02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:05,730 way so you need to I'm telling you it's 2499 02:14:12,820 --> 02:14:09,150 it's it's really really really well done 2500 02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:12,830 but anyway so back to this though when 2501 02:14:18,860 --> 02:14:16,110 when you have the zero support group 2502 02:14:23,690 --> 02:14:18,870 together and you guys are sitting and 2503 02:14:26,630 --> 02:14:23,700 talking through this the changes that 2504 02:14:29,530 --> 02:14:26,640 you see in in them 2505 02:14:34,730 --> 02:14:29,540 is it is it immediate is it rewarding 2506 02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:34,740 you know or is it a long process oh it's 2507 02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:38,490 a process it's not overnight but I have 2508 02:14:43,970 --> 02:14:41,520 seen people who originally come into my 2509 02:14:47,330 --> 02:14:43,980 office and they're they can't get 2510 02:14:48,319 --> 02:14:47,340 through talking about what's happened to 2511 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:48,329 them without being 2512 02:14:55,069 --> 02:14:54,090 in tears and as time goes on because 2513 02:14:59,060 --> 02:14:55,079 I've been working with some of these 2514 02:15:03,310 --> 02:14:59,070 people for the last 26 years I I see the 2515 02:15:05,390 --> 02:15:03,320 the healing I see the strength in them 2516 02:15:08,330 --> 02:15:05,400 they're you know they're they're big 2517 02:15:11,919 --> 02:15:08,340 they're helping other experiencers and 2518 02:15:15,979 --> 02:15:11,929 I'm telling you during the abduction 2519 02:15:19,819 --> 02:15:15,989 experience the abductees experiences 2520 02:15:23,390 --> 02:15:19,829 will go through a graduation process 2521 02:15:26,930 --> 02:15:23,400 which I you know what I call a 2522 02:15:29,330 --> 02:15:26,940 graduation process that they first start 2523 02:15:31,189 --> 02:15:29,340 out and many of them are traumatized 2524 02:15:32,660 --> 02:15:31,199 you know they're on this table with 2525 02:15:34,100 --> 02:15:32,670 these strange beings looking at them 2526 02:15:35,629 --> 02:15:34,110 they don't know what happened people 2527 02:15:37,129 --> 02:15:35,639 think they're crazy they can't talk to 2528 02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:37,139 anybody 2529 02:15:43,459 --> 02:15:40,110 and this time goes on and as we're 2530 02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:43,469 working through regressions they get to 2531 02:15:50,839 --> 02:15:47,280 the point where the alien beings are 2532 02:15:51,459 --> 02:15:50,849 having them escort people around the 2533 02:15:56,020 --> 02:15:51,469 ship 2534 02:15:59,870 --> 02:15:56,030 calming other people down they know that 2535 02:16:02,209 --> 02:15:59,880 you know they're escorting them to say 2536 02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:02,219 one room to the other and they feel bad 2537 02:16:06,740 --> 02:16:04,050 because they know they're escorting them 2538 02:16:10,540 --> 02:16:06,750 to have examinations and so forth but 2539 02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:10,550 it's it's like they're they're helping 2540 02:16:16,459 --> 02:16:13,530 the process they're calming people down 2541 02:16:19,419 --> 02:16:16,469 and I have heard from people who were 2542 02:16:24,859 --> 02:16:19,429 extremely traumatized at the beginning 2543 02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:24,869 doing this now on the ship so it's it's 2544 02:16:32,990 --> 02:16:28,880 a it's an amazing process what 2545 02:16:39,169 --> 02:16:33,000 experiences go through and I do love 2546 02:16:42,070 --> 02:16:39,179 seeing them years later you know just 2547 02:16:46,129 --> 02:16:42,080 living you don't getting married and 2548 02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:46,139 having kids or grandkids and and and in 2549 02:16:50,509 --> 02:16:48,000 my support group Sara like probably 2550 02:16:54,490 --> 02:16:50,519 other support groups as well it's about 2551 02:16:56,870 --> 02:16:54,500 the country they become like family 2552 02:16:59,330 --> 02:16:56,880 because they're able to relate to each 2553 02:17:01,879 --> 02:16:59,340 other you know they walk in and you know 2554 02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:01,889 they'll they'll socialize as 2555 02:17:07,519 --> 02:17:04,559 well it's not just in the medians 2556 02:17:10,759 --> 02:17:07,529 because they feel comfortable talking to 2557 02:17:13,849 --> 02:17:10,769 other like-minded people and Jimmy these 2558 02:17:16,429 --> 02:17:13,859 people are from all walks of life I mean 2559 02:17:20,899 --> 02:17:16,439 I have worked with doctors and lawyers 2560 02:17:24,309 --> 02:17:20,909 and scientists you know people in the 2561 02:17:28,030 --> 02:17:24,319 film industry people who are celebrities 2562 02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:28,040 these alien beings do not discriminate 2563 02:17:39,049 --> 02:17:34,889 so I I'm hoping that we're heading more 2564 02:17:43,849 --> 02:17:39,059 and more towards acceptance from the 2565 02:17:46,549 --> 02:17:43,859 general public now with the news article 2566 02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:46,559 coming out about Harry Reid heading up a 2567 02:17:54,439 --> 02:17:49,889 program in the Pentagon right to study 2568 02:17:56,899 --> 02:17:54,449 these things that I think helped because 2569 02:18:01,339 --> 02:17:56,909 there were what Washington Post New York 2570 02:18:05,689 --> 02:18:01,349 Times they showed the they showed the 2571 02:18:10,669 --> 02:18:05,699 clip of the the Navy pilots who spotted 2572 02:18:16,879 --> 02:18:10,679 that object and now Burt you know that's 2573 02:18:19,070 --> 02:18:16,889 that's very mainstream and have you have 2574 02:18:22,820 --> 02:18:19,080 you read the new article that came out 2575 02:18:26,709 --> 02:18:22,830 yesterday the interview with Harry Reid 2576 02:18:29,719 --> 02:18:26,719 by Eric Benson have you read this I 2577 02:18:34,129 --> 02:18:29,729 don't but where can I find you okay it's 2578 02:18:36,679 --> 02:18:34,139 a New York magazine and I will I'm gonna 2579 02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:36,689 post this up in Twitter right now for 2580 02:18:41,839 --> 02:18:39,599 everybody but this interview is pretty 2581 02:18:46,070 --> 02:18:41,849 interesting and in fact he even starts 2582 02:18:47,389 --> 02:18:46,080 off in the interview he goes Harry Reid 2583 02:18:50,030 --> 02:18:47,399 goes look man if you come to talk to me 2584 02:18:52,309 --> 02:18:50,040 about little green men we can stop the 2585 02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:52,319 interview right now I'm just here to 2586 02:18:56,540 --> 02:18:54,090 talk about the science right so that's 2587 02:19:00,979 --> 02:18:56,550 that's the way Harry Reid starts it off 2588 02:19:09,019 --> 02:19:00,989 and it's it's pretty fascinating so 2589 02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:09,029 what's your Twitter handle okay I'm 2590 02:19:12,500 --> 02:19:11,370 gonna send it to you over in Facebook 2591 02:19:15,950 --> 02:19:12,510 right now 2592 02:19:20,379 --> 02:19:15,960 do that in real life now something else 2593 02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:20,389 has come up with me over the years with 2594 02:19:27,080 --> 02:19:24,080 different experiencers and one of them 2595 02:19:30,379 --> 02:19:27,090 which I find fascinating is that they 2596 02:19:32,719 --> 02:19:30,389 are walking down the hall of a ship and 2597 02:19:36,650 --> 02:19:32,729 they look into a room and they see a 2598 02:19:40,009 --> 02:19:36,660 classroom with kids being instructed 2599 02:19:45,019 --> 02:19:40,019 have have you heard this in some of your 2600 02:19:49,460 --> 02:19:45,029 sessions oh my gosh I have clients 2601 02:19:53,090 --> 02:19:49,470 almost everyone as children have been in 2602 02:19:57,370 --> 02:19:53,100 a classroom setting with other human 2603 02:20:02,420 --> 02:19:57,380 children and they are instructed how to 2604 02:20:09,530 --> 02:20:02,430 move objects with their mind they said 2605 02:20:12,830 --> 02:20:09,540 they're able to do it they I have some 2606 02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:12,840 slides that show them sitting in front 2607 02:20:18,980 --> 02:20:16,290 of a computer terminal type object and 2608 02:20:23,050 --> 02:20:18,990 they're supposed to play this game and 2609 02:20:26,719 --> 02:20:23,060 try to figure this out but oh yes I have 2610 02:20:29,019 --> 02:20:26,729 hundreds of cases about you know 2611 02:20:34,690 --> 02:20:29,029 children sitting in the classroom or a 2612 02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:34,700 human child showing the hybrid children 2613 02:20:45,969 --> 02:20:41,850 how to play with toys really so that so 2614 02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:51,290 well that's what I assumed because you 2615 02:21:00,349 --> 02:20:56,160 know supposedly they're here now and I 2616 02:21:04,010 --> 02:21:00,359 don't you know I feel they're not going 2617 02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:04,020 to try to take us over like a invasion 2618 02:21:10,610 --> 02:21:06,710 of the body snatchers I don't feel that 2619 02:21:16,099 --> 02:21:10,620 because they do need us they need our 2620 02:21:22,910 --> 02:21:16,109 DNA they need our emotions you know they 2621 02:21:26,390 --> 02:21:22,920 need much from us so the ultimate end 2622 02:21:29,150 --> 02:21:26,400 game Jimmy I wish I knew 2623 02:21:30,890 --> 02:21:29,160 believe me I find out that they tell me 2624 02:21:39,591 --> 02:21:30,900 something I'm gonna go back come back on 2625 02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:39,601 your show and and and going with you 2626 02:21:44,030 --> 02:21:41,760 know this massive amount of disclosure 2627 02:21:45,591 --> 02:21:44,040 that's happened since December with the 2628 02:21:48,530 --> 02:21:45,601 mass media 2629 02:21:51,080 --> 02:21:48,540 what is your phone been like in your 2630 02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:51,090 email is this starting to stir memories 2631 02:21:55,640 --> 02:21:53,730 with with some and are they starting to 2632 02:22:00,640 --> 02:21:55,650 reach out to you are you seeing a raise 2633 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:00,650 in consciousness about this an awareness 2634 02:22:11,540 --> 02:22:08,610 not more than usual but I feel if you 2635 02:22:14,091 --> 02:22:11,550 know if it continues he is going to 2636 02:22:15,620 --> 02:22:14,101 awaken you know the people that never 2637 02:22:17,930 --> 02:22:15,630 even thought about something flying 2638 02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:17,940 around up there and I think it's going 2639 02:22:28,761 --> 02:22:25,110 to spark some memories and people grant 2640 02:22:32,420 --> 02:22:28,771 Cameron last night it said that you know 2641 02:22:35,180 --> 02:22:32,430 he talked about the the article Harry 2642 02:22:38,540 --> 02:22:35,190 Reid the to the Stars Foundation and 2643 02:22:39,070 --> 02:22:38,550 said that there's going to be more to 2644 02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:39,080 come 2645 02:22:45,940 --> 02:22:42,240 so I think they're doling the 2646 02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:45,950 information out slowly but you know what 2647 02:22:53,390 --> 02:22:50,730 really I feel that disclosure is going 2648 02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:53,400 to come from the experiencers there's 2649 02:22:58,761 --> 02:22:56,370 going to be people coming forward and 2650 02:23:05,330 --> 02:22:58,771 they already have from all walks of life 2651 02:23:09,170 --> 02:23:05,340 and just admitting to the public that 2652 02:23:11,390 --> 02:23:09,180 look you know I've been a neurosurgeon 2653 02:23:13,700 --> 02:23:11,400 for 40 years but I've also been abducted 2654 02:23:15,740 --> 02:23:13,710 as that since I was a little boy don't 2655 02:23:17,780 --> 02:23:15,750 you wonder about that I'm always 2656 02:23:22,220 --> 02:23:17,790 fascinated with that how many people 2657 02:23:24,890 --> 02:23:22,230 know know and remember and and and have 2658 02:23:33,290 --> 02:23:24,900 an experience but they've never said a 2659 02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:33,300 word and I'm talking from all walks of 2660 02:23:40,301 --> 02:23:36,000 life you know your your doctor my doctor 2661 02:23:43,150 --> 02:23:40,311 Janice I mean it's like it's so white 2662 02:23:45,430 --> 02:23:43,160 and that's why I feel it's going to come 2663 02:23:48,341 --> 02:23:45,440 from the experiences the experiencers 2664 02:23:51,430 --> 02:23:48,351 the abduction phenomenon is central to 2665 02:23:53,320 --> 02:23:51,440 this I feel it very strongly yeah 2666 02:23:56,140 --> 02:23:53,330 absolutely I base it on my own 2667 02:23:59,801 --> 02:23:56,150 experience I had a crazy thing you know 2668 02:24:02,591 --> 02:23:59,811 about this back in 1995 in my condo and 2669 02:24:05,501 --> 02:24:02,601 in Sherman Oaks had you know this this 2670 02:24:08,650 --> 02:24:05,511 thing that happened in in my room early 2671 02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:08,660 in the morning and I didn't tell anybody 2672 02:24:18,341 --> 02:24:14,450 for 10 years I know I did and and even 2673 02:24:21,640 --> 02:24:18,351 then when I sort of talked about it with 2674 02:24:28,751 --> 02:24:21,650 a friend of mine I really didn't tell 2675 02:24:31,301 --> 02:24:28,761 him everything exactly you know so if I 2676 02:24:33,131 --> 02:24:31,311 did it every I can't tell I can't I 2677 02:24:35,801 --> 02:24:33,141 wouldn't even know what that number 2678 02:24:37,631 --> 02:24:35,811 would be you know once I started talking 2679 02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:37,641 about it and the first time I really 2680 02:24:41,830 --> 02:24:40,370 went public was either here or maybe it 2681 02:24:44,290 --> 02:24:41,840 was on coast to coast I don't know which 2682 02:24:46,091 --> 02:24:44,300 one happened first but once I started 2683 02:24:51,780 --> 02:24:46,101 talking about it I couldn't shut up I 2684 02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:54,820 another thing that you know before we 2685 02:24:59,770 --> 02:24:57,920 close tonight I want to you know out 2686 02:25:02,620 --> 02:24:59,780 there to your audience I want to mention 2687 02:25:06,251 --> 02:25:02,630 that in the second half of my new book 2688 02:25:09,131 --> 02:25:06,261 chosen I mentioned I call it the urgency 2689 02:25:11,740 --> 02:25:09,141 for the last five or so years people 2690 02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:11,750 have been telling me it experiences zero 2691 02:25:16,330 --> 02:25:14,090 members new people that they've been 2692 02:25:20,980 --> 02:25:16,340 feeling that something is going to 2693 02:25:22,900 --> 02:25:20,990 happen very soon they can't put their 2694 02:25:25,930 --> 02:25:22,910 finger on it they don't there is there's 2695 02:25:28,530 --> 02:25:25,940 no specific date they don't know what it 2696 02:25:33,370 --> 02:25:28,540 is but if they feel that it's 2697 02:25:37,180 --> 02:25:33,380 accelerating now and if those of your 2698 02:25:41,381 --> 02:25:37,190 listeners read my book and if you have 2699 02:25:43,180 --> 02:25:41,391 felt this urgency that you have to do 2700 02:25:46,180 --> 02:25:43,190 something they come to me and say I 2701 02:25:49,930 --> 02:25:46,190 think I'm supposed to do something but I 2702 02:25:52,180 --> 02:25:49,940 don't know what it is and you know I 2703 02:25:54,131 --> 02:25:52,190 have I've had people who have owned 2704 02:25:58,751 --> 02:25:54,141 their own companies have made 2705 02:26:02,501 --> 02:25:58,761 six figures and said to me I'm supposed 2706 02:26:05,620 --> 02:26:02,511 to do something and I don't really care 2707 02:26:07,841 --> 02:26:05,630 about my the money anymore it just 2708 02:26:11,620 --> 02:26:07,851 doesn't matter to me I'm supposed to do 2709 02:26:16,211 --> 02:26:11,630 something to help humanity you know to 2710 02:26:17,860 --> 02:26:16,221 help the earth I mean that struck me 2711 02:26:23,980 --> 02:26:17,870 because I've heard it from several 2712 02:26:26,051 --> 02:26:23,990 people so whatever this is I like to 2713 02:26:27,791 --> 02:26:26,061 hear from more people out there if 2714 02:26:31,261 --> 02:26:27,801 they're if they're feeling this or they 2715 02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:31,271 have felt this and you don't if they 2716 02:26:38,350 --> 02:26:34,490 have received any messages I mean a lot 2717 02:26:41,341 --> 02:26:38,360 of my members and clients is that they 2718 02:26:46,470 --> 02:26:41,351 they're compelled to go out and buy 2719 02:26:48,820 --> 02:26:46,480 extra food and water and generators and 2720 02:26:50,831 --> 02:26:48,830 you know but nobody's saying the world's 2721 02:26:52,570 --> 02:26:50,841 going to end in a year you know what is 2722 02:26:55,950 --> 02:26:52,580 giving any dates nobody's saying 2723 02:27:00,301 --> 02:26:55,960 anything like that which I feel is more 2724 02:27:03,251 --> 02:27:00,311 credible than somebody predicting a date 2725 02:27:05,530 --> 02:27:03,261 they are all saying I don't know when 2726 02:27:07,570 --> 02:27:05,540 but it but they're all saying now it's 2727 02:27:11,650 --> 02:27:07,580 accelerating I don't know if you have 2728 02:27:14,831 --> 02:27:11,660 felt that Jimmy but that's why I felt is 2729 02:27:16,990 --> 02:27:14,841 important enough to put in my book well 2730 02:27:20,470 --> 02:27:17,000 I've got all the links up I just posted 2731 02:27:24,131 --> 02:27:20,480 them up in Twitter and so there is ZERO 2732 02:27:27,461 --> 02:27:24,141 internationals website also Yvonne's 2733 02:27:29,740 --> 02:27:27,471 online shop and the new book is right 2734 02:27:31,841 --> 02:27:29,750 there which is called chosen from the 2735 02:27:34,301 --> 02:27:31,851 alien hybrid program to the fate of the 2736 02:27:36,820 --> 02:27:34,311 planet you can get that and another 2737 02:27:40,631 --> 02:27:36,830 excellent read which I highly recommend 2738 02:27:41,350 --> 02:27:40,641 is Coronado and you know what we should 2739 02:27:44,410 --> 02:27:41,360 do 2740 02:27:47,801 --> 02:27:44,420 Yvonne is very soon we should come back 2741 02:27:50,020 --> 02:27:47,811 bring you back on and fully go through 2742 02:27:54,551 --> 02:27:50,030 Coronado again that is one of the most 2743 02:27:59,230 --> 02:27:54,561 fast what a fascinating not only event 2744 02:28:00,730 --> 02:27:59,240 the book is a tremendous read most this 2745 02:28:03,761 --> 02:28:00,740 should be up there with all of the other 2746 02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:03,771 great cases out there and there are so 2747 02:28:07,381 --> 02:28:05,210 many cases that don't get the 2748 02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:07,391 recognition of some others and and 2749 02:28:11,281 --> 02:28:09,610 Coronado is one of those it's a 2750 02:28:13,831 --> 02:28:11,291 tremendous read so I've got the links up 2751 02:28:15,211 --> 02:28:13,841 for both of those and everybody can 2752 02:28:18,091 --> 02:28:15,221 click on it right there in Twitter 2753 02:28:20,671 --> 02:28:18,101 absolutely Yvonne again a fascinating 2754 02:28:22,890 --> 02:28:20,681 conversation and I can't wait to get you 2755 02:28:24,781 --> 02:28:22,900 back on the show but keep doing what you 2756 02:28:27,991 --> 02:28:24,791 do and keep rolling that rock uphill 2757 02:28:29,850 --> 02:28:28,001 thank you so much thank you very much 2758 02:28:33,421 --> 02:28:29,860 Jimmy for having me on god bless you 2759 02:28:34,890 --> 02:28:33,431 right back at you I said it again Lin 2760 02:28:42,031 --> 02:28:34,900 Lewis I see 2761 02:28:47,461 --> 02:28:42,041 Yvonne Lin Lewis is here she snuck it in 2762 02:28:50,730 --> 02:28:47,471 thank you so much Yvonne be safe Yvonne 2763 02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:50,740 Smith Lin Lewis made sure she did that 2764 02:28:54,241 --> 02:28:52,450 twice now you gotta love it 2765 02:28:56,071 --> 02:28:54,251 I've got to take a quick break right 2766 02:28:57,961 --> 02:28:56,081 here and when I come back what I would 2767 02:28:59,551 --> 02:28:57,971 like to do with everybody I'm gonna know 2768 02:29:01,051 --> 02:28:59,561 it put up the phone lines and if you 2769 02:29:03,900 --> 02:29:01,061 would like to call in and say something 2770 02:29:05,881 --> 02:29:03,910 about Lin Lewis she would appreciate it 2771 02:29:08,041 --> 02:29:05,891 I would appreciate it and all of the 2772 02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:08,051 other phaidor knots too so three two 2773 02:29:12,541 --> 02:29:10,450 three eight two five five zero four five 2774 02:29:15,451 --> 02:29:12,551 four three two three two seven five nine 2775 02:29:17,341 --> 02:29:15,461 six nine five Linda Lewis in the house 2776 02:29:19,381 --> 02:29:17,351 this is fade to black I'm miss Jamie 2777 02:29:22,531 --> 02:29:19,391 Church thank you so much Yvonne Smith 2778 02:29:27,050 --> 02:29:22,541 amazing conversation this is fade to 2779 02:29:44,439 --> 02:29:41,219 [Music] 2780 02:29:45,069 --> 02:29:44,449 and you are 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years 2836 02:32:26,990 --> 02:32:24,960 younger with nature's youth RSF it's a 2837 02:32:28,670 --> 02:32:27,000 doctor formulated daily supplement that 2838 02:32:30,380 --> 02:32:28,680 helps your body maintain its peak 2839 02:32:33,020 --> 02:32:30,390 performance and fight the aging process 2840 02:32:34,520 --> 02:32:33,030 imagine sleeping better looking better 2841 02:32:36,980 --> 02:32:34,530 and feeling better 2842 02:32:38,929 --> 02:32:36,990 see how Nature's youth RSF has helped 2843 02:32:41,630 --> 02:32:38,939 thousands of people just like you at 2844 02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:41,640 nature's use calm nature's youth calm 2845 02:32:45,650 --> 02:32:44,130 the holidays are coming imagine how it 2846 02:32:47,420 --> 02:32:45,660 will feel when your family and friends 2847 02:32:49,790 --> 02:32:47,430 are asking you what you did to look so 2848 02:32:52,070 --> 02:32:49,800 good your secret will be nature's youth 2849 02:32:54,559 --> 02:32:52,080 RSF it's time to start looking better 2850 02:32:56,630 --> 02:32:54,569 and feeling better learn more in order 2851 02:33:06,890 --> 02:32:56,640 your nature's use RSS at nature's youth 2852 02:33:21,450 --> 02:33:10,620 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 2853 02:33:26,210 --> 02:33:21,460 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 2854 02:33:26,220 --> 02:33:39,400 [Music] 2855 02:33:44,060 --> 02:33:41,540 all right welcome back fade to black 2856 02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:44,070 having those Jimmy Church want to thank 2857 02:33:47,540 --> 02:33:46,110 you Bob Smith great conversation she's 2858 02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:47,550 absolutely amazing 2859 02:33:54,261 --> 02:33:50,730 and the links first zero international 2860 02:33:56,110 --> 02:33:54,271 it's zero int l.com or dot org uh but 2861 02:33:59,450 --> 02:33:56,120 the links are right there it's dot-com 2862 02:34:01,220 --> 02:33:59,460 are right there in Twitter and and her 2863 02:34:04,690 --> 02:34:01,230 new book is there too as well Coronado 2864 02:34:09,020 --> 02:34:04,700 is absolutely amazing what an amazing 2865 02:34:12,100 --> 02:34:09,030 story that went on down at the hotel 2866 02:34:16,700 --> 02:34:12,110 Coronado down in San Diego so anyway 2867 02:34:20,150 --> 02:34:16,710 thank you for that conversation Yvonne 2868 02:34:23,900 --> 02:34:20,160 and as mentioned this shows dedicated to 2869 02:34:25,551 --> 02:34:23,910 Lynn Lewis who was our mom around here 2870 02:34:28,910 --> 02:34:25,561 you know she kept everybody straight she 2871 02:34:30,500 --> 02:34:28,920 passed away this past Sunday and so I'm 2872 02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:30,510 going to open up the phone lines three 2873 02:34:35,390 --> 02:34:32,970 two three eight to five five zero four 2874 02:34:38,990 --> 02:34:35,400 five or three to three to seven five 2875 02:34:41,780 --> 02:34:39,000 nine six nine five and and I'd like to 2876 02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:41,790 hear from you and you know Lynn was 2877 02:34:49,130 --> 02:34:44,370 absolutely amazing it it caught us by 2878 02:34:50,660 --> 02:34:49,140 surprise and and I realize with her 2879 02:34:53,420 --> 02:34:50,670 family in the way that they posted that 2880 02:34:55,130 --> 02:34:53,430 it just it it happened and it was really 2881 02:34:57,890 --> 02:34:55,140 really fast we didn't have any warning 2882 02:34:59,950 --> 02:34:57,900 about it and and sometimes it happens 2883 02:35:03,110 --> 02:34:59,960 that way so we were caught by surprise 2884 02:35:05,570 --> 02:35:03,120 even though it happened on Sunday 2885 02:35:09,261 --> 02:35:05,580 of course she lives in Australia were 2886 02:35:11,930 --> 02:35:09,271 over here and you know and and we were 2887 02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:11,940 mark tirana and I noticed a few people 2888 02:35:17,030 --> 02:35:14,160 out there Mariana especially trying to 2889 02:35:17,990 --> 02:35:17,040 reach out to her all her family let us 2890 02:35:21,170 --> 02:35:18,000 know what happened 2891 02:35:24,020 --> 02:35:21,180 so three two three eight two five five 2892 02:35:26,020 --> 02:35:24,030 zero four five or three two three two 2893 02:35:28,970 --> 02:35:26,030 seven five nine six nine five and 2894 02:35:31,341 --> 02:35:28,980 talking about Lynn now as and I know you 2895 02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:31,351 guys caught this Lynn is on my mind 2896 02:35:40,220 --> 02:35:37,130 right she's on my mind and she was just 2897 02:35:43,430 --> 02:35:40,230 just a big part of our family and to 2898 02:35:47,091 --> 02:35:43,440 have me slip up twice I think three 2899 02:35:48,090 --> 02:35:47,101 times tonight now with Lynn sneaking 2900 02:35:51,210 --> 02:35:48,100 into my brain 2901 02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:51,220 I designed I think that's amazing and 2902 02:35:55,530 --> 02:35:53,680 that's just so cool and it happened and 2903 02:35:59,399 --> 02:35:55,540 all of you 2904 02:36:01,080 --> 02:35:59,409 got to hear it so there you go three two 2905 02:36:03,540 --> 02:36:01,090 three eight two five five zero four five 2906 02:36:06,809 --> 02:36:03,550 or let me click on these and I'll clear 2907 02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:06,819 that and clear this stuff out and okay 2908 02:36:14,870 --> 02:36:12,399 so that that line is now good and let me 2909 02:36:17,370 --> 02:36:14,880 get over here this other computer and 2910 02:36:19,889 --> 02:36:17,380 make sure I've got that open three two 2911 02:36:23,010 --> 02:36:19,899 three this is the two seven five nine 2912 02:36:24,559 --> 02:36:23,020 six nine five line is now open to as 2913 02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:24,569 well all right there you go 2914 02:36:34,530 --> 02:36:28,720 Lynne Lewis a couple of things that I 2915 02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:34,540 wanted to comment on really quickly is 2916 02:36:48,030 --> 02:36:41,800 number one the Chinese the Chinese space 2917 02:36:54,599 --> 02:36:48,040 station the T on gun one it looks like 2918 02:36:56,969 --> 02:36:54,609 it's gonna come down soon and they're 2919 02:37:00,510 --> 02:36:56,979 predicting now that it is going to crash 2920 02:37:03,689 --> 02:37:00,520 into or over the Midwestern United 2921 02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:03,699 States specifically Illinois Iowa 2922 02:37:11,070 --> 02:37:09,010 Indiana and Wisconsin now it's gonna 2923 02:37:12,689 --> 02:37:11,080 miss LA I'm kind of bummed about that 2924 02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:12,699 because I would have loved to have 2925 02:37:19,710 --> 02:37:15,310 gotten me some Chinese Space Lab space 2926 02:37:21,420 --> 02:37:19,720 junk pop that stuff up on eBay right or 2927 02:37:23,880 --> 02:37:21,430 put it in here in the bunk or some 2928 02:37:26,269 --> 02:37:23,890 radioactive miss but it looks like it's 2929 02:37:28,349 --> 02:37:26,279 gonna come down over the United States 2930 02:37:30,479 --> 02:37:28,359 how crazy is that 2931 02:37:33,510 --> 02:37:30,489 and what if you get conked on the head 2932 02:37:34,830 --> 02:37:33,520 do you sue the Chinese think about that 2933 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:34,840 let's go to the phones hi you're live 2934 02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:38,170 i'm fade to black who's calling oh hi 2935 02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:43,170 Jimmy do you mean hi Jimmy how are you 2936 02:37:49,530 --> 02:37:45,040 yeah I'm doing great 2937 02:37:53,639 --> 02:37:49,540 hey I didn't know when like you guys did 2938 02:37:56,969 --> 02:37:53,649 but I want to offer my condolences to 2939 02:38:01,179 --> 02:37:56,979 all of the tater tots and to Lynn's 2940 02:38:05,710 --> 02:38:03,639 when any of you guys get this healing 2941 02:38:07,389 --> 02:38:05,720 sad just think about her being over 2942 02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:07,399 there on the new earth getting your 2943 02:38:15,450 --> 02:38:12,530 studio all set up yeah you know yeah you 2944 02:38:19,090 --> 02:38:15,460 mean seriously thank you for that and 2945 02:38:21,880 --> 02:38:19,100 you know what was what was amazing about 2946 02:38:23,530 --> 02:38:21,890 Lin well she had lots of amazing 2947 02:38:26,710 --> 02:38:23,540 qualities you know a great sense of 2948 02:38:30,610 --> 02:38:26,720 humor very smart and wouldn't take any 2949 02:38:34,170 --> 02:38:30,620 crap and really really fun to talk to 2950 02:38:39,100 --> 02:38:34,180 but what was amazing he's from Australia 2951 02:38:42,969 --> 02:38:39,110 she was here every single night for this 2952 02:38:46,900 --> 02:38:42,979 show right and called in as anytime I 2953 02:38:49,389 --> 02:38:46,910 mean she that was it I know yes she was 2954 02:38:53,170 --> 02:38:49,399 she was just great every single night 2955 02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:53,180 and and watching her keep everybody in 2956 02:38:59,679 --> 02:38:56,720 line was really really really funny she 2957 02:39:01,690 --> 02:38:59,689 was just absolutely amazing and and I 2958 02:39:04,719 --> 02:39:01,700 and I mean that she supported this show 2959 02:39:06,910 --> 02:39:04,729 from the very very beginning so you 2960 02:39:11,740 --> 02:39:06,920 never messed around with her on on 2961 02:39:16,660 --> 02:39:11,750 Twitter huh I don't remember whether I 2962 02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:16,670 did or not it's because you never 2963 02:39:33,219 --> 02:39:31,250 stepped out of line yeah yes she was she 2964 02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:33,229 was amazing and and I do want to thank 2965 02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,880 you for calling in and saying that it 2966 02:39:41,320 --> 02:39:36,800 means a lot to all of the fader nots 2967 02:39:41,980 --> 02:39:41,330 thank you so much Jenny you have a great 2968 02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:41,990 weekend 2969 02:39:48,760 --> 02:39:46,010 YouTube be safe out there I will bye bye 2970 02:39:50,410 --> 02:39:48,770 bye three two three eight two five five 2971 02:39:54,460 --> 02:39:50,420 zero four five four three two three two 2972 02:39:59,920 --> 02:39:54,470 seven five nine six and nine five yeah 2973 02:40:05,500 --> 02:39:59,930 and and back to a UFO over Vancouver 2974 02:40:11,761 --> 02:40:05,510 last week this looks I don't think this 2975 02:40:15,871 --> 02:40:11,771 was last week who posted this Jack this 2976 02:40:19,060 --> 02:40:15,881 videos are still from a video this this 2977 02:40:21,940 --> 02:40:19,070 this goes back a few years I've seen the 2978 02:40:25,331 --> 02:40:21,950 whole video on this and seeing it turn 2979 02:40:30,190 --> 02:40:25,341 I've got a I've got a whole file folder 2980 02:40:31,961 --> 02:40:30,200 of stills that I took from this yeah hi 2981 02:40:34,360 --> 02:40:31,971 this is what I think I think that's a 2982 02:40:39,761 --> 02:40:34,370 this is my I remember seeing this in the 2983 02:40:43,331 --> 02:40:39,771 video this was a balloon or something 2984 02:40:45,131 --> 02:40:43,341 that was reflecting the sunlight you 2985 02:40:47,591 --> 02:40:45,141 have to see the whole video as it's 2986 02:40:50,230 --> 02:40:47,601 turning you can tell this looks like a 2987 02:40:53,381 --> 02:40:50,240 solid structure but it's not it's a 2988 02:40:55,121 --> 02:40:53,391 collapsing thing and the top and the 2989 02:40:58,930 --> 02:40:55,131 bottom where it's lit up this is 2990 02:41:02,440 --> 02:40:58,940 reflecting the Sun so there you go all 2991 02:41:04,841 --> 02:41:02,450 right let's go to a mark you're live 2992 02:41:12,131 --> 02:41:04,851 from Australia what's going on in the 2993 02:41:14,650 --> 02:41:12,141 background mark you're live me yes 2994 02:41:17,921 --> 02:41:14,660 you're live but roll up the window what 2995 02:41:21,131 --> 02:41:17,931 is that I'm standing between a bunch of 2996 02:41:28,740 --> 02:41:21,141 trains Mike okay all right all right 2997 02:41:32,020 --> 02:41:28,750 and thank you a for calling in but you 2998 02:41:35,140 --> 02:41:32,030 you got the news out to the fader not 2999 02:41:37,570 --> 02:41:35,150 family today and caught me by surprise 3000 02:41:40,890 --> 02:41:37,580 and you were reaching out you must have 3001 02:41:44,951 --> 02:41:40,900 been pretty pretty saddened by the news 3002 02:41:47,411 --> 02:41:44,961 yourself I always I didn't expect that 3003 02:41:51,220 --> 02:41:47,421 answer at all Jimmy I was talking to 3004 02:41:54,430 --> 02:41:51,230 Karen last night on on direct message 3005 02:41:56,440 --> 02:41:54,440 about her plumbing issues and she she 3006 02:41:59,051 --> 02:41:56,450 said to me have you heard from Lynn 3007 02:42:01,211 --> 02:41:59,061 lately and I said no actually it's 3008 02:42:03,610 --> 02:42:01,221 strange now she has been AWOL in the 3009 02:42:05,110 --> 02:42:03,620 past because of her health right and 3010 02:42:07,150 --> 02:42:05,120 that's that's when I decided to reach 3011 02:42:09,490 --> 02:42:07,160 out on all the different platforms that 3012 02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:09,500 I have anyway and yeah I wasn't 3013 02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:11,690 expecting that answer seriously Jimmy 3014 02:42:18,881 --> 02:42:16,730 yeah I saw it immediately and and I'm 3015 02:42:20,411 --> 02:42:18,891 looking at you know the time stamps 3016 02:42:24,520 --> 02:42:20,421 right if you know it was just like an 3017 02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:24,530 immediate thing and I I had to go back 3018 02:42:29,410 --> 02:42:25,010 in 3019 02:42:30,910 --> 02:42:29,420 opposed to her sister's response and 3020 02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:30,920 then yours and so forth right and 3021 02:42:36,700 --> 02:42:33,920 everybody Rhea I was like this there was 3022 02:42:41,650 --> 02:42:36,710 Sunday but this news is breaking right 3023 02:42:43,540 --> 02:42:41,660 now to all of us and I didn't even know 3024 02:42:47,370 --> 02:42:43,550 how to react because that was not the 3025 02:42:49,690 --> 02:42:47,380 response I was expecting either and 3026 02:42:51,610 --> 02:42:49,700 exactly might always always actually oh 3027 02:42:53,260 --> 02:42:51,620 my always at work and I could feel my 3028 02:42:55,870 --> 02:42:53,270 phone in my pocket vibrating and I 3029 02:42:57,820 --> 02:42:55,880 thought it was busy and it was an inner 3030 02:42:58,840 --> 02:42:57,830 sight of getting crazier and crazier and 3031 02:43:00,790 --> 02:42:58,850 I thought hang out better have a look 3032 02:43:04,210 --> 02:43:00,800 here and that's when I sort of saw that 3033 02:43:06,610 --> 02:43:04,220 message and I went well now I believe I 3034 02:43:09,460 --> 02:43:06,620 surprised mightily and you know okay so 3035 02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:09,470 let's now that we got that out of the 3036 02:43:13,300 --> 02:43:11,450 way let me ask you this you're over in 3037 02:43:17,469 --> 02:43:13,310 Australia did you ever get a chance to 3038 02:43:20,410 --> 02:43:17,479 hang out with her she's down in 3039 02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:20,420 Queensland on the border no I didn't get 3040 02:43:25,889 --> 02:43:22,490 a chance unfortunately right because I 3041 02:43:29,440 --> 02:43:25,899 know that you guys on and in contact but 3042 02:43:32,110 --> 02:43:29,450 yeah all the time all the time on direct 3043 02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:32,120 messages and on facebook messenger all 3044 02:43:36,070 --> 02:43:34,490 the time and she'd send me links to 3045 02:43:39,370 --> 02:43:36,080 shows and I thought I'd have a listen 3046 02:43:43,150 --> 02:43:39,380 and vice versa yeah yeah now it's very 3047 02:43:45,730 --> 02:43:43,160 sad on Jimmy you know and so for the 3048 02:43:51,250 --> 02:43:45,740 audience out there that that you know 3049 02:43:54,550 --> 02:43:51,260 main you know not understand why we are 3050 02:43:58,389 --> 02:43:54,560 Lynn Lynn has been a part of this this 3051 02:44:00,639 --> 02:43:58,399 family his family it's big but it's 3052 02:44:06,179 --> 02:44:00,649 family and everybody knows each other 3053 02:44:09,190 --> 02:44:06,189 and so you know the the one who is Lynn 3054 02:44:11,830 --> 02:44:09,200 who was somebody that we just looked up 3055 02:44:13,450 --> 02:44:11,840 to and was you know she was she was the 3056 02:44:14,200 --> 02:44:13,460 fader nods mom you know and that's 3057 02:44:20,019 --> 02:44:14,210 that's it 3058 02:44:23,170 --> 02:44:20,029 something that you know we've lost a 3059 02:44:25,090 --> 02:44:23,180 family member and exactly she didn't 3060 02:44:27,580 --> 02:44:25,100 take any crap Martha know she was the 3061 02:44:29,710 --> 02:44:27,590 best for that man she gave me enough 3062 02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:29,720 crap over the years to as well I loved 3063 02:44:33,730 --> 02:44:31,970 her for every minute of it mark thank 3064 02:44:36,490 --> 02:44:33,740 you so much for taking the time to call 3065 02:44:37,370 --> 02:44:36,500 in all the way from Australia and again 3066 02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:37,380 this show was for 3067 02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:39,450 and thank you for that I know that you 3068 02:44:42,980 --> 02:44:41,040 guys were close thank you my friend 3069 02:44:44,270 --> 02:44:42,990 that problem might have a good Diane 3070 02:44:46,400 --> 02:44:44,280 thanks for taking my call so y'all 3071 02:44:50,540 --> 02:44:46,410 edified adults there you go it's mark 3072 02:44:53,150 --> 02:44:50,550 Tirana all the way from Australia now 3073 02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:53,160 I've got Steve from blue field Steve how 3074 02:45:02,900 --> 02:44:56,640 are you man what's up mr. Jimmy Church 3075 02:45:08,090 --> 02:45:02,910 you know the shows for Lynn man so said 3076 02:45:15,320 --> 02:45:08,100 Jimmy but uh you know I'm experienced 3077 02:45:17,360 --> 02:45:15,330 with a afterlife and I'm kind of one say 3078 02:45:20,600 --> 02:45:17,370 I'm jealous but she's in a better place 3079 02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:20,610 yeah I know I know I know I knew you 3080 02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:24,000 were gonna say that too I say that and 3081 02:45:31,969 --> 02:45:28,170 and I find comfort in that you don't 3082 02:45:34,490 --> 02:45:31,979 need to that's gosh 3083 02:45:37,790 --> 02:45:34,500 I wouldn't want everyone to have to 3084 02:45:43,219 --> 02:45:37,800 experience what I experienced but it's 3085 02:45:49,550 --> 02:45:43,229 something that man it's if just if you 3086 02:45:54,800 --> 02:45:49,560 could just have a few moments of what 3087 02:45:57,650 --> 02:45:54,810 I'm now I call fortunate at the time it 3088 02:46:02,719 --> 02:45:57,660 wasn't too fortunate but after you have 3089 02:46:05,870 --> 02:46:02,729 that experience and realize that man 3090 02:46:11,840 --> 02:46:05,880 it's something that's waiting for us 3091 02:46:19,490 --> 02:46:11,850 that is so beautiful so peaceful so so 3092 02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:19,500 loving and in tune with just in tune 3093 02:46:26,889 --> 02:46:22,170 with your being is the best way that I 3094 02:46:30,320 --> 02:46:26,899 can explain it it's just a magnificent 3095 02:46:33,889 --> 02:46:30,330 you know no one wants to check out I 3096 02:46:38,929 --> 02:46:33,899 guess but it's nothing to be afraid of 3097 02:46:41,570 --> 02:46:38,939 it's it's it's actually you know 3098 02:46:44,300 --> 02:46:41,580 magnificent Jimmy it's it's something 3099 02:46:47,330 --> 02:46:44,310 that's magnificent and it's definitely 3100 02:46:51,220 --> 02:46:47,340 nothing nothing to fear as long as you 3101 02:46:54,520 --> 02:46:51,230 have lived life the way that 3102 02:46:57,251 --> 02:46:54,530 that you should live life and and be a 3103 02:47:00,390 --> 02:46:57,261 service to other and and to love and to 3104 02:47:02,951 --> 02:47:00,400 cherish and and to be open-minded and 3105 02:47:07,060 --> 02:47:02,961 you know support people and help people 3106 02:47:11,711 --> 02:47:07,070 that need help you you will experience 3107 02:47:17,951 --> 02:47:11,721 the the good things that could that come 3108 02:47:21,161 --> 02:47:17,961 after that and and I thank you again for 3109 02:47:25,421 --> 02:47:21,171 that and it just like so many others 3110 02:47:29,110 --> 02:47:25,431 you've been with this show forever what 3111 02:47:32,140 --> 02:47:29,120 seems like forever and and you know how 3112 02:47:34,480 --> 02:47:32,150 how this this family looks at each other 3113 02:47:37,270 --> 02:47:34,490 here you know and and you get this and 3114 02:47:39,671 --> 02:47:37,280 and you know the fate or nots 3115 02:47:42,791 --> 02:47:39,681 you know they've you know it's a family 3116 02:47:47,261 --> 02:47:42,801 member you know it's such a tight tight 3117 02:47:49,780 --> 02:47:47,271 niche of people Jimmy and it's so hard 3118 02:47:52,421 --> 02:47:49,790 for I guess people that are looking at 3119 02:47:55,541 --> 02:47:52,431 it from the outside and until you're 3120 02:47:58,841 --> 02:47:55,551 truly inside and you're a fade or not 3121 02:48:02,621 --> 02:47:58,851 and you become a part of of this family 3122 02:48:06,161 --> 02:48:02,631 I just really don't think people you 3123 02:48:08,081 --> 02:48:06,171 know grasp or understand you know where 3124 02:48:10,121 --> 02:48:08,091 we come from that's wrong that's right 3125 02:48:13,930 --> 02:48:10,131 that's a shame it's I really wish that 3126 02:48:17,560 --> 02:48:13,940 that more people could could feel and 3127 02:48:18,970 --> 02:48:17,570 understand you know what we're about and 3128 02:48:20,740 --> 02:48:18,980 what you know what what the whole 3129 02:48:23,530 --> 02:48:20,750 community not just being a fade or not 3130 02:48:25,871 --> 02:48:23,540 but but the whole UFO community yeah you 3131 02:48:30,900 --> 02:48:25,881 know yes we have our problems at times 3132 02:48:37,421 --> 02:48:34,270 without you know being disrespectful 3133 02:48:40,360 --> 02:48:37,431 with anyone just you know some people 3134 02:48:41,951 --> 02:48:40,370 are just who they are Jimmy and you know 3135 02:48:46,980 --> 02:48:41,961 those are the kind of people you kind of 3136 02:48:51,100 --> 02:48:46,990 got a shrug off and it is what it is but 3137 02:48:54,180 --> 02:48:51,110 99.9% of the people that are involved in 3138 02:48:58,600 --> 02:48:54,190 this community are you know loving 3139 02:49:01,270 --> 02:48:58,610 cherished you know people who who really 3140 02:49:04,220 --> 02:49:01,280 care for one another and and really 3141 02:49:08,501 --> 02:49:04,230 really care for Humanity and 3142 02:49:12,411 --> 02:49:08,511 and for Gaia and for just for everything 3143 02:49:13,850 --> 02:49:12,421 that needs to be done it's just a 3144 02:49:15,831 --> 02:49:13,860 wonderful thing and it's a wonderful 3145 02:49:18,230 --> 02:49:15,841 thing to be a part of Jimmy and and 3146 02:49:20,480 --> 02:49:18,240 thank you for being a part of it and and 3147 02:49:22,371 --> 02:49:20,490 you're a big part of this family and 3148 02:49:23,690 --> 02:49:22,381 just just thank you for that and thank 3149 02:49:28,341 --> 02:49:23,700 you for taking the time to call in 3150 02:49:30,860 --> 02:49:28,351 tonight's a very special night and you 3151 02:49:32,751 --> 02:49:30,870 know Jimmy's always brother thanks for 3152 02:49:34,640 --> 02:49:32,761 the time you got it thank you so much 3153 02:49:40,190 --> 02:49:34,650 Steve behave and be well my friend give 3154 02:49:42,560 --> 02:49:40,200 my best to the family you got it Steve 3155 02:49:46,610 --> 02:49:42,570 bunker right there 3156 02:49:49,371 --> 02:49:46,620 Steve bunker I'm looking at these 3157 02:49:53,150 --> 02:49:49,381 amazing photographs of Lynn that 3158 02:49:55,751 --> 02:49:53,160 everybody is posting and Justin I don't 3159 02:50:00,350 --> 02:49:55,761 know where you got this but I remember 3160 02:50:03,411 --> 02:50:00,360 this picture of Lynn next to the 3161 02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:03,421 bookcase I just had to retweet that but 3162 02:50:06,831 --> 02:50:05,040 I don't know where you guys are getting 3163 02:50:09,890 --> 02:50:06,841 and the picture of her with a bird I 3164 02:50:13,810 --> 02:50:09,900 remember these over the years and I 3165 02:50:20,871 --> 02:50:18,051 collect these and and get these up and I 3166 02:50:24,470 --> 02:50:20,881 just the memories Rita just posted this 3167 02:50:25,970 --> 02:50:24,480 picture of Lynn with her coffee and just 3168 02:50:28,251 --> 02:50:25,980 look at that man and it's just an 3169 02:50:29,961 --> 02:50:28,261 amazing picture and I don't know where 3170 02:50:34,671 --> 02:50:29,971 you guys got them all and that's a lot 3171 02:50:37,461 --> 02:50:34,681 of a lot of raised glasses so and thank 3172 02:50:38,961 --> 02:50:37,471 you for that but it's just absolutely 3173 02:50:41,171 --> 02:50:38,971 amazing to look at us go back to the 3174 02:50:45,791 --> 02:50:41,181 phones hi you're live on fade to black 3175 02:50:53,331 --> 02:50:45,801 Jimmy it's Brian and how are you man 3176 02:50:55,310 --> 02:50:53,341 how's everybody man how's the pizza you 3177 02:51:02,470 --> 02:50:55,320 know what's funny when you posted that 3178 02:51:08,270 --> 02:51:05,390 really did was give them some props 3179 02:51:13,761 --> 02:51:08,280 what's the name of the pizza joint good 3180 02:51:15,740 --> 02:51:13,771 man it is Casey's can be Casey's general 3181 02:51:17,780 --> 02:51:15,750 store pizza it's like three blocks away 3182 02:51:18,380 --> 02:51:17,790 it's righteous yeah yeah it looks out 3183 02:51:20,649 --> 02:51:18,390 pretty good 3184 02:51:24,769 --> 02:51:20,659 and he got the Gray Goose going on and 3185 02:51:26,719 --> 02:51:24,779 man yeah right on I woke up I woke up 3186 02:51:29,240 --> 02:51:26,729 like from this map and they and I came 3187 02:51:31,399 --> 02:51:29,250 downstairs like I always do I was like 3188 02:51:35,120 --> 02:51:31,409 all week long right this is my ritual I 3189 02:51:39,500 --> 02:51:35,130 came downstairs and it's like what mana 3190 02:51:42,410 --> 02:51:39,510 I get these uh and I haven't got him for 3191 02:51:46,280 --> 02:51:42,420 a while I get these these private 3192 02:51:49,490 --> 02:51:46,290 message tweets from when in the middle 3193 02:51:50,059 --> 02:51:49,500 of the night it's like um I was going 3194 02:51:53,300 --> 02:51:50,069 through him 3195 02:51:56,269 --> 02:51:53,310 I'll post him up but uh top the last one 3196 02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:56,279 was she was like Bry what's what thats 3197 02:52:02,120 --> 02:51:59,040 mm you know and I'm like that's 3198 02:52:04,370 --> 02:52:02,130 mainstream media you know right chinoco 3199 02:52:07,130 --> 02:52:04,380 what's that you know and I'm we're going 3200 02:52:10,849 --> 02:52:07,140 on and on and on about it and you know 3201 02:52:14,479 --> 02:52:10,859 it's just this guy managed does this 3202 02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:14,489 thing where when you know what's going 3203 02:52:21,860 --> 02:52:18,960 on and the people that are on the inside 3204 02:52:26,149 --> 02:52:21,870 or like asking and God you guys have 3205 02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:26,159 been so cool to me like coming in and it 3206 02:52:30,889 --> 02:52:27,930 seems like to spend a long time and it's 3207 02:52:32,679 --> 02:52:30,899 only been six months since I've been 3208 02:52:35,330 --> 02:52:32,689 tweeting and like everybody's 3209 02:52:38,809 --> 02:52:35,340 everybody's just like right there right 3210 02:52:40,910 --> 02:52:38,819 there and and I'm just a man Linda Lane 3211 02:52:43,399 --> 02:52:40,920 was just so cool like in the middle of 3212 02:52:44,899 --> 02:52:43,409 the night my phone with beeping there 3213 02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:44,909 was her you know and you know you're on 3214 02:52:52,250 --> 02:52:48,479 the timed if so but she's like right 3215 02:52:54,710 --> 02:52:52,260 there I'm looking at Lynne's Twitter 3216 02:53:01,670 --> 02:52:54,720 page and right there 3217 02:53:06,320 --> 02:53:01,680 join December of 2012 man four and a 3218 02:53:08,360 --> 02:53:06,330 half years ago yeah she's just just 3219 02:53:17,360 --> 02:53:08,370 amazing and did you see what her Twitter 3220 02:53:19,849 --> 02:53:17,370 page says it says Fator not away tonight 3221 02:53:21,649 --> 02:53:19,859 and then she says wake the hell up world 3222 02:53:22,220 --> 02:53:21,659 listened to fade to black with Jimmy 3223 02:53:28,480 --> 02:53:22,230 Church 3224 02:53:35,461 --> 02:53:32,290 is classic bad at is just classic so 3225 02:53:38,110 --> 02:53:35,471 woman's the last time you talked to her 3226 02:53:40,511 --> 02:53:38,120 do you know what I was looking at it I 3227 02:53:43,841 --> 02:53:40,521 was sitting here like going through this 3228 02:53:49,030 --> 02:53:43,851 stuff and it was it was last month yeah 3229 02:53:50,470 --> 02:53:49,040 yeah yeah just kind of go yeah we get we 3230 02:53:51,910 --> 02:53:50,480 all get busy with everything is 3231 02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:51,920 important right and then this stuff 3232 02:53:56,381 --> 02:53:54,170 happens and then you just like go what 3233 02:53:58,421 --> 02:53:56,391 am i doing you know I'm not paying 3234 02:54:00,400 --> 02:53:58,431 attention to what's important yeah yeah 3235 02:54:02,921 --> 02:54:00,410 yep yep that's exactly right 3236 02:54:08,470 --> 02:54:02,931 it's funny how we do that sometimes and 3237 02:54:12,970 --> 02:54:08,480 I was speaking today with one of our 3238 02:54:15,490 --> 02:54:12,980 sponsors and and they said something to 3239 02:54:19,091 --> 02:54:15,500 me that was you know just kind of struck 3240 02:54:23,140 --> 02:54:19,101 me that we we live our life today in 3241 02:54:26,290 --> 02:54:23,150 Mach 5 you know everything is so fast 3242 02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:26,300 everything life is fast the news is fast 3243 02:54:32,140 --> 02:54:29,290 the you know the everything is fast and 3244 02:54:34,930 --> 02:54:32,150 everything is fast fast fast fast and 3245 02:54:39,070 --> 02:54:34,940 it's not like the old days like in the 3246 02:54:41,470 --> 02:54:39,080 80s and the 90s and the 70s were things 3247 02:54:43,660 --> 02:54:41,480 were just slow and you were able to 3248 02:54:46,540 --> 02:54:43,670 absorb things and appreciate things and 3249 02:54:49,120 --> 02:54:46,550 learn and and take the time you can't do 3250 02:54:53,230 --> 02:54:49,130 that anymore you know and and we're all 3251 02:54:55,480 --> 02:54:53,240 victims of that were all victims all 3252 02:54:58,030 --> 02:54:55,490 victims other thing there was a thing 3253 02:55:01,810 --> 02:54:58,040 that went out on coasts and it was years 3254 02:55:03,341 --> 02:55:01,820 ago and I hooked up with it but and then 3255 02:55:06,520 --> 02:55:03,351 got involved with the program with some 3256 02:55:10,511 --> 02:55:06,530 people like all over the planet but it 3257 02:55:12,610 --> 02:55:10,521 was it was you were supposed to live it 3258 02:55:17,131 --> 02:55:12,620 started it was like a whole tribe of 3259 02:55:20,350 --> 02:55:17,141 people that you were supposed to 3260 02:55:23,980 --> 02:55:20,360 basically it started on January 1 and it 3261 02:55:26,850 --> 02:55:23,990 went for the entire year and you were 3262 02:55:31,421 --> 02:55:26,860 supposed to live every day as if it was 3263 02:55:32,830 --> 02:55:31,431 your last day and you had a syllabus you 3264 02:55:34,450 --> 02:55:32,840 had things you were going to I mean I 3265 02:55:36,520 --> 02:55:34,460 guess it was kind of bucket list but it 3266 02:55:39,551 --> 02:55:36,530 was a little bit more heavy than that it 3267 02:55:41,470 --> 02:55:39,561 was like stimuli you know but you know 3268 02:55:42,121 --> 02:55:41,480 like this is going to be like we just 3269 02:55:43,501 --> 02:55:42,131 like 3270 02:55:45,690 --> 02:55:43,511 we were on it right now we would have 3271 02:55:49,110 --> 02:55:45,700 went to our last Valentine's Day you 3272 02:55:51,631 --> 02:55:49,120 know was that Valentine's Day to the 3273 02:55:54,091 --> 02:55:51,641 hilt you know like it was going to be 3274 02:55:55,650 --> 02:55:54,101 the last one I mean we don't know and 3275 02:55:58,440 --> 02:55:55,660 we're not paying attention that way 3276 02:56:01,501 --> 02:55:58,450 anymore you know so you know all this 3277 02:56:05,011 --> 02:56:01,511 stuff is coming up and going forward and 3278 02:56:07,711 --> 02:56:05,021 I've always been a proponent from it for 3279 02:56:09,390 --> 02:56:07,721 it since they went through it but it's 3280 02:56:11,881 --> 02:56:09,400 like you know yeah you know I mean this 3281 02:56:14,100 --> 02:56:11,891 is you know coming up I mean I don't 3282 02:56:16,411 --> 02:56:14,110 know Easter but you last fourth of July 3283 02:56:19,921 --> 02:56:16,421 I mean you're gonna get a kickback you 3284 02:56:22,890 --> 02:56:19,931 kind of like go nuts on fireworks you 3285 02:56:24,421 --> 02:56:22,900 know your last Thanksgiving could be 3286 02:56:26,821 --> 02:56:24,431 coming up your last Christmas could be 3287 02:56:32,310 --> 02:56:26,831 coming up I mean it's coming not to be 3288 02:56:34,201 --> 02:56:32,320 negative but to be honest it's it's 3289 02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:34,211 happening you know it's happening every 3290 02:56:40,291 --> 02:56:36,730 day in every way to everybody in some 3291 02:56:42,180 --> 02:56:40,301 way so you know we're we're getting 3292 02:56:45,421 --> 02:56:42,190 closer and we need to pay attention to 3293 02:56:48,301 --> 02:56:45,431 what's important and and in that I will 3294 02:56:50,881 --> 02:56:48,311 say just from my little small part of 3295 02:56:54,600 --> 02:56:50,891 the planet over here in the Midwest you 3296 02:56:57,631 --> 02:56:54,610 know you guys are awesome I'm kind of 3297 02:56:59,341 --> 02:56:57,641 I'm kind of thoughtful and careful about 3298 02:57:02,071 --> 02:56:59,351 who I associate with and I just think 3299 02:57:05,730 --> 02:57:02,081 you guys are doing like such a good 3300 02:57:10,171 --> 02:57:05,740 thing you know and thank you for that 3301 02:57:13,470 --> 02:57:10,181 Bryan and and and I and you get it and I 3302 02:57:15,810 --> 02:57:13,480 think that most do these days but you 3303 02:57:19,470 --> 02:57:15,820 know it's really really true if you 3304 02:57:22,621 --> 02:57:19,480 screw up and you get hit by a car you 3305 02:57:25,350 --> 02:57:22,631 get run over by a bus and and you leave 3306 02:57:27,360 --> 02:57:25,360 right do you want the last thing that 3307 02:57:32,341 --> 02:57:27,370 you did on this planet to be something 3308 02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:32,351 negative so man that can be corrected 3309 02:57:39,091 --> 02:57:35,200 that can be corrected after you can take 3310 02:57:40,671 --> 02:57:39,101 care of that but there is yeah yeah you 3311 02:57:42,480 --> 02:57:40,681 know if you don't want guys it's a 3312 02:57:45,571 --> 02:57:42,490 surprise when you're on the other side 3313 02:57:48,480 --> 02:57:45,581 and you know you don't have that choice 3314 02:57:49,230 --> 02:57:48,490 yeah I agree totally absolutely hey 3315 02:57:52,411 --> 02:57:49,240 Bryan 3316 02:57:54,751 --> 02:57:52,421 be safe be well and have a great perfect 3317 02:57:55,740 --> 02:57:54,761 awesome safe weekend we'll see you on 3318 02:57:58,291 --> 02:57:55,750 Monday 3319 02:58:00,320 --> 02:57:58,301 all right man thank you so much buddy 3320 02:58:03,740 --> 02:58:00,330 you got it thank you Brian 3321 02:58:06,331 --> 02:58:03,750 this shows dedicated to Lin Lewis and 3322 02:58:11,251 --> 02:58:06,341 she left this world on Sunday 3323 02:58:14,341 --> 02:58:11,261 she's much loved and this family misses 3324 02:58:16,740 --> 02:58:14,351 her so much already but that's it she 3325 02:58:18,871 --> 02:58:16,750 wants us to go and party and so let's go 3326 02:58:20,280 --> 02:58:18,881 and have a great safe fun weekend you do 3327 02:58:20,911 --> 02:58:20,290 the same with your friends and your 3328 02:58:23,070 --> 02:58:20,921 family 3329 02:58:24,720 --> 02:58:23,080 fade to black so executive producers 3330 02:58:26,310 --> 02:58:24,730 Rita Camarillo and shows produced by 3331 02:58:28,200 --> 02:58:26,320 Hill J palm Renee Dennis and Bob 3332 02:58:30,871 --> 02:58:28,210 announces our Steve harver gene Vitolo 3333 02:58:34,230 --> 02:58:30,881 mark D Khobar webmaster drew the geek 3334 02:58:37,950 --> 02:58:34,240 music doug aldrich intro space boy space 3335 02:58:41,730 --> 02:58:37,960 boy music.com beta-blockers produced by 3336 02:58:44,671 --> 02:58:41,740 kjsurya and syndication as k g ra the 3337 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